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    I've only just had a chance to watch the "highlights"…

    Curtis Main has conned the ref, no doubt about that but is shocking that he's also managed to con the VAR assistant who has access to footage of all the different angles, etc. No way that should have happened.

    Kilmarnock game was even worse - how the same referee and VAR assistant can disallow the early goal for hand ball and then not give a penalty for hand ball later in the game tells you all you need to know about VAR in Scotland… not fit for purpose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PT_Arab View Post
    I've only just had a chance to watch the "highlights"…

    Curtis Main has conned the ref, no doubt about that but is shocking that he's also managed to con the VAR assistant who has access to footage of all the different angles, etc. No way that should have happened.

    Kilmarnock game was even worse - how the same referee and VAR assistant can disallow the early goal for hand ball and then not give a penalty for hand ball later in the game tells you all you need to know about VAR in Scotland… not fit for purpose.
    As I said in an earlier post it is not VAR that is the problem it is the people using it that are the reason for all this. The ref on Saturday only had one view of the incident and this may have been obscured slightly by Ayina. The official in the studio if he was watching the same pictures being shown by BBC Scotland must surely have seen Main diving.
    I think perhaps if the referee is inexperienced, as he was on Saturday, then an experienced official should be in the VAR studio. This was not the case on Saturday as Colin Steven is not an experienced official. The same happened at the Killie game against Saints. The official in the studio had refereed one game in the SPFL in over two years. He missed Considine’s blatant hand ball.

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    Var completely ruins the experience, long delays, kills the spontaneity of goals, which was the single greatest thing, now when we score im more worried about var taking it way, first thing I always forbid tell my old man not to get carried away var will probably chop it off. Even during matches I find myself instinctively thinking if something looks dubious offside this will get pulled back, best to get a Corner and score from there.

    Var officials are completely incapable of differentiating between real time actions and slow mo. Then the refs brick it and go with the var. the Penalty Celtic got v Morton, killie non Handball sat, st Mirren pen, these refs and var officials are just not fit for purpose. Those decisions are on them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by southwestarab View Post
    As I said in an earlier post it is not VAR that is the problem it is the people using it that are the reason for all this. The ref on Saturday only had one view of the incident and this may have been obscured slightly by Ayina. The official in the studio if he was watching the same pictures being shown by BBC Scotland must surely have seen Main diving.
    I think perhaps if the referee is inexperienced, as he was on Saturday, then an experienced official should be in the VAR studio. This was not the case on Saturday as Colin Steven is not an experienced official. The same happened at the Killie game against Saints. The official in the studio had refereed one game in the SPFL in over two years. He missed Considine’s blatant hand ball.
    No disrespect, but if the var ref can’t see the handball in the killie game then he has reffed one game too many.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JUSTaway View Post
    No disrespect, but if the var ref can’t see the handball in the killie game then he has reffed one game too many.
    The Considine handball is probably the worst decision I've ever seen. Absolutely incredible.

    F*CK VAR.

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    Forget the others - look at the Celtic players reaction on #2 when they see they're about to be cheated
    https://youtu.be/7TlO4GH4Bf4

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Forget the others - look at the Celtic players reaction on #2 when they see they're about to be cheated
    https://youtu.be/7TlO4GH4Bf4
    Natural to react like that when it's so unbelievably blatent though. Ours has only become so blatent with the advantage of TV replays. Not many folk I spoke to at the game really knew what had happened.

    Also, to say our players just 'turned away and said oh well that's a pity' isnae quite true. Edwards also spent a fair amount of time with the referee before this point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stokearab View Post
    Forget the others - look at the Celtic players reaction on #2 when they see they're about to be cheated
    https://youtu.be/7TlO4GH4Bf4
    Worth also looking at #5 though 😎
    https://youtu.be/7TlO4GH4Bf4

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    We've had an absolutely shyte deal from refs and VAR this season, some ****ing unbelievable decisions that had they gone the right way we would not be bottom of the league no matter how shyte we've been. I can't think of one other club that's had it as bad as us, not one!

    I can however easily think of one that hasn't.

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    He spent time trying to be nice and rational, it should have been 11 onfield and the whole bench up at arms in an organised and frightening fashion.

    Tannadice has become way too nice and easy for visitors and officials. its not a fortress its a free brothel with invitation to all and sundry to come and feck us.

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