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Thread: Bolton and Bury games likely to be suspended....latest update, what a mess.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Millers 05 or Coleman would not have been allowed to take us over. We may have gone under in 2005.
    The EFL allowed the current and previous owner of Bury to become custodians of that club though and they were totally inappropriate.
    Are the proposed new owners of Bury fit and proper? EFL haven't said either way.

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    I can only think Kerr is on another planet if he thinks there isn’t any advantage in them that have played Bolton.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Agree its a short mess and devalues the league. But also see the EFL has some duty to fans of these clubs to give them every chance to stay afloat and be around another 100 years. Look at our club.
    How long are they suppose to be given then?

    Ok let’s help them and keep them on league, then when they over spend and find themselves in the same boat again we’ll just let it be again?

    There’s got to be a deterrent or clubs are just going to ignore the rules (the rules that seem to alter every time by the EFL)
    Last edited by millertop; 26-08-2019 at 01:25 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mikemiller View Post
    The Millers never called off a fixture a couple of days before the match was scheduled with no consultation with the Football League or our opponents though, so not quite the same thing.
    It would be an odd world if every club got into difficulties in the same way and responded in the same way. We didn't call off any games, but, with the agreement of the EFL, we played in a wholly unsuitable athletics stadium for several seasons.

    If Bolton survive, I have no doubt that they will be facing a disciplinary panel in due course for postponing the Doncaster game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Galley On View Post
    I think that many on here feel rightly or wrongly that there is an uneven playing field particularly in Bolton's case. In my opinion what they did to Doncaster was wrong as they did not consult either the club or the organising body.

    Additionally, there is at this moment a league that has some clubs (Millers) having played 3 and others on 5. Yes I know it will even itself out but it still does not feel right. We, along with Luton and Bournemouth were given huge point penalties and had had to put our houses in order. At the moment the EFL have a kid glove approach. I do not think that is to the benefit of Bolton or Bury in the long run. It would be a sad day but other clubs have made comebacks after similar experiences. For example Accrington, Newport and Wimbledon.
    It wouldn't be Millers Mad if some posters didn't take the view that Rotherham were being disadvantaged.

    Yes, we have played fewer games than other teams, but doesn't that happen naturally in the season when clubs go on cup runs, or have matches postponed due to adverse weather conditions?

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    Quote Originally Posted by flourbasher View Post
    The EFL allowed the current and previous owner of Bury to become custodians of that club though and they were totally inappropriate.
    Are the proposed new owners of Bury fit and proper? EFL haven't said either way.
    What do you suppose happens in a 'fit and proper' assessment? The EFL would have been presented with people who did not have relevant criminal convictions or restrictions upon their ability to act as directors and who produced documentation that showed that they had a bob or two. That’s it.

    The GMC admitted Harold Shipman as a doctor as he was deemed to be a fit and proper person to be a member of that profession. Were they at fault or is it the case that they, like, the EFL, are not clairvoyant? Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by millertop View Post
    I can only think Kerr is on another planet if he thinks there isn’t any advantage in them that have played Bolton.
    Go on then, MT. What is the advantage? If Bolton go bust, the points that clubs have taken from them will be expunged. If they don't, every team in the division will get the opportunity to play their kids.

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    Flippin eck Kerr you are on form. Upsetting everybody on this thread left, right and centre. i sort of feel comforted now that it is not just me you see as the enemy!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanChaiMiller View Post
    Just on the point of the kid glove approach. Of course we were made to put our house in order. But remember it took us 7 years from Millers 05 going bust, leaving Millmoor and finally getting back to playing back in Rotherham and getting the club on an even keel.
    The thing is WanChai that either the rules were different back when we were in trouble, or we gave solid assurances to the football league that we were capable of fulfilling our fixtures and also financially viable.
    As has already been posted, we never had a match called off, either by the football league or just ourselves deciding we didn't want to play ,like Bolton.
    Someone picked up on when I said a couple of weeks ago that I didn't want any team to go under, and they said they couldn't understand that, but my point is that by all means kick em out of the league because if ,for whatever reason, they can't fulfil their fixtures, but I most certainly don't want to see any team go bust, especially teams with the history that both Bolton and Bury have, but if they have to play their football in non league until they can regroup then so be it, but at the moment our division is being turned into what could become an unfair joke.

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