Scottish Government moving the goalposts

[BCram]

bcram reminds me of Leader of the House, Lindsey Hoyle, let's the right get away with murder

Your best riposte Taintedice. Be better if you had got the spelling right for Lindsay, but comment made me smile!

[Taintedice]

Typo I am sure Taintedice, but union of the parliaments was 1603 and Union of the crowns James 1st and 6th was 1707. I thought this created the United Kingdom, but not sure. Rross no doubt will correct .

I think that people who post on this forum in the past wee while have improved it a bit. Covid has been an interesting topic and so has the discussion about Holyrood and Nicola. Noticed she has volunteered to give up her daily broadcast during the run up to the election because it was unfair. Must have been true then when all the other political parties have been saying this for months.

You've got those events mixed up, the union of the crowns was first, then came the union of the parliaments after the Darien episode in the 1690s. The UK wasn't created till the early 1800s when Ireland joined, although most folk just take 1707 as the creation date.

Your best riposte Taintedice. Be better if you had got the spelling right for Lindsay, but comment made me smile!

I'm being lazy today, not checking stuff properly, it's the weekend after all. deeranged might have actually said something amusing and I've missed that as well.

[BCram]

Absolutely right, my bad! How could James 1 son Charles 1 be executed in 1649! Will give up history, and leave it to the experts, like you and Rros.

[Returnofrros]

Typo I am sure Taintedice, but union of the parliaments was 1603 and Union of the crowns James 1st and 6th was 1707. I thought this created the United Kingdom, but not sure. Rross no doubt will correct .

I think that people who post on this forum in the past wee while have improved it a bit. Covid has been an interesting topic and so has the discussion about Holyrood and Nicola. Noticed she has volunteered to give up her daily broadcast during the run up to the election because it was unfair. Must have been true then when all the other political parties have been saying this for months.

Union of crowns I understood to be 1603, act of union early 17 hundreds....1707 prob right and in between there was the union of commonwealth of Eng, Scot and Ireland....don't know date....might be same date as when they done away with absolute monarchy.

[BCram]

David Davies here or zero? Think there is merit in Westminster reviewing the Scotland Act to bring Holyrood more into line with Westminster.

[Deeranged]

David Davies here or zero? Think there is merit in Westminster reviewing the Scotland Act to bring Holyrood more into line with Westminster.

Brought into line? We're not naughty schoolkids.

We need complete separation from Westminster not more alignment with it.

[BCram]

Brought into line? We're not naughty schoolkids.

We need complete separation from Westminster not more alignment with it.

Sorry Deeranged poor choice of words. I thought that SNP supporters who care about democracy might understand the problem that the Salmond enquiry has revealed might be something that all Scots could agree on. Absolutely no disrespect intended and our Holyrood politicians should be asking for the changes to be made to help rein in an unaccountable First Minister and her party. I would be making the same point no matter what party had behaved in Scotland the way the current SNP have.

[Deeranged]

Sorry Deeranged poor choice of words. I thought that SNP supporters who care about democracy might understand the problem that the Salmond enquiry has revealed might be something that all Scots could agree on. Absolutely no disrespect intended and our Holyrood politicians should be asking for the changes to be made to help rein in an unaccountable First Minister and her party. I would be making the same point no matter what party had behaved in Scotland the way the current SNP have.

I listened to Ruth Davidson at FM Questions today. I've actually always liked Ruth, she doesn't (well never used to) mess about or mince her words, an excellent orator and obviously pretty clever with it. However, today she was using words like 'alleged' and 'reported' to describe things that she's trying to purport as absolute fact. She's just toeing the party line of course which is to bring down the Sturgefuhrer and her cronies but you can't be using these words to try to back up what you say is a statement of fact so she's losing in my view and she just gives Sturgeon the opportunities she wants to bat her down and look good.

I think there's deep problems in the SNP right now and that they are now bad for Scotland. Nicola and the guy on Skye in particular are self serving and two faced but then they are politicians. The Tories won't bring down the current clearly corrupt Scottish Government unless they come up with some actual policies that appeal to people like me that would welcome independence but no longer trust the SNP. Those policies must be aimed at giving Scotland its independence form Westminster rule. They are proposing no policies, all they have is the linesman shouting SNP bad at every opportunity - not a popular guy and not a great strategy.

As it stands I will not be able to cast any vote in the May elections because I don't want to feel responsible for either of them being in power anywhere. SNP will be back and possibly with a bigger mandate simply because no alternative is being offered.

[BCram]

I listened to Ruth Davidson at FM Questions today. I've actually always liked Ruth, she doesn't (well never used to) mess about or mince her words, an excellent orator and obviously pretty clever with it. However, today she was using words like 'alleged' and 'reported' to describe things that she's trying to purport as absolute fact. She's just toeing the party line of course which is to bring down the Sturgefuhrer and her cronies but you can't be using these words to try to back up what you say is a statement of fact so she's losing in my view and she just gives Sturgeon the opportunities she wants to bat her down and look good.

I think there's deep problems in the SNP right now and that they are now bad for Scotland. Nicola and the guy on Skye in particular are self serving and two faced but then they are politicians. The Tories won't bring down the current clearly corrupt Scottish Government unless they come up with some actual policies that appeal to people like me that would welcome independence but no longer trust the SNP. Those policies must be aimed at giving Scotland its independence form Westminster rule. They are proposing no policies, all they have is the linesman shouting SNP bad at every opportunity - not a popular guy and not a great strategy.

As it stands I will not be able to cast any vote in the May elections because I don't want to feel responsible for either of them being in power anywhere. SNP will be back and possibly with a bigger mandate simply because no alternative is being offered.

I agree with your analysis of Ruth Davidson and the way she is approaching the way the SNP have behaved. I think there are principles involved and they can't be fixed by Holyrood on it's own unless there is a minority government which argues with Westminster that there should be changes made to the Scotland act.
Think the Conservatives will lose votes to Lib Dems and Labour in seats where either of those parties is second to SNP. Might gain votes from these parties where they are second to the SNP.

[Taintedice]

Sorry Deeranged poor choice of words. I thought that SNP supporters who care about democracy might understand the problem that the Salmond enquiry has revealed might be something that all Scots could agree on. Absolutely no disrespect intended and our Holyrood politicians should be asking for the changes to be made to help rein in an unaccountable First Minister and her party. I would be making the same point no matter what party had behaved in Scotland the way the current SNP have.

Nicola Sturgeon and the SNP are accountable to the people of Scotland, there is to be an election in just a few weeks, why are you talking as though we're living in North Korea. And your last sentence is completely false and you know it, the tories and labour both shafted their leaders recently and you said nothing about it, don't blame you, unionists are boring as phukk whilst the SNP are box office, like the Dees tonight