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    Not a fan of Boris by any stretch but ffs
    If politicians are going to be taken to court for "lying", courts would have queues a mile long yet another attempt to add to the anti leave mob

    Boris Johnson will be summonsed to court to face accusations of misconduct in public office over claims he was lying when he said the UK gave the EU £350 million a week.

    The favourite to win the Tory leadership race faces a private prosecution by campaigner Marcus Ball.



    Looking at the bus again a lawyer could & probably would argue that no specific promise was made let alone a lie
    & I repeat I am not a fan of Boris
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    Quote Originally Posted by Exiletyke View Post
    Not a fan of Boris by any stretch but ffs
    If politicians are going to be taken to court for "lying", courts would have queues a mile long yet another attempt to add to the anti leave mob

    Boris Johnson will be summonsed to court to face accusations of misconduct in public office over claims he was lying when he said the UK gave the EU £350 million a week.

    The favourite to win the Tory leadership race faces a private prosecution by campaigner Marcus Ball.



    Looking at the bus again a lawyer could & probably would argue that no specific promise was made let alone a lie
    & I repeat I am not a fan of Boris
    I don't think the legal action is anything to do with promises. The accusation is that Boris said that we give the EU £350 million a week. If he did and that is not the case then he lied. What do you see on the bus that makes you think different?

    I don't know what the real agenda of the bloke bringing this action is but it does seem to be a waste of time and money

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    The side of the bus said we send £350 million a week
    What's the real figure that we sent in 2016
    Theresa May is the epitome of obfuscation so should be doing time
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    Quote Originally Posted by wrinkly View Post
    I don't think the legal action is anything to do with promises. The accusation is that Boris said that we give the EU £350 million a week. If he did and that is not the case then he lied. What do you see on the bus that makes you think different?

    I don't know what the real agenda of the bloke bringing this action is but it does seem to be a waste of time and money
    Quite.

    The £350million figure was a lie. As Grist correctly pointed out the other day, the true figure is about half of that.

    I don't want to say too much about the case as it is arguably sub-judice. I would simply point out that the CPS has the power to take over private prosecutions and drop them if they are deemed to be doomed to fail or not in the public interest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KerrAvon View Post
    Quite.

    The £350million figure was a lie. As Grist correctly pointed out the other day, the true figure is about half of that.

    I don't want to say too much about the case as it is arguably sub-judice. I would simply point out that the CPS has the power to take over private prosecutions and drop them if they are deemed to be doomed to fail or not in the public interest.
    The thing is that the figure of 350 Million per week is about right but that is without the UK rebate taken in to consideration. If you take the rebate in to consideration you are looking at a sum of 250 million give or take a couple of hundred thousand. It is still substantially more than the 175 million you are claiming it is.

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    EU say they've finished negotiations though, we'll have to see, Tories definitely need a tougher leader, not someone like Hunt.

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    Quote Originally Posted by great_fire View Post
    EU say they've finished negotiations though, we'll have to see, Tories definitely need a tougher leader, not someone like Hunt.
    They would say that though because they're better at negotiations than our sad lot

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    Come on guys, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage? Really? They are both imbeciles you only have to look at them to know that. They are borderline insane and that's being generous.Can you really trust your lives. families etc with the likes of these 2? Constantly ridiculed in the press and media apart from the right wing media that is. How anyone with any slight left leanings on here can entertain them I will never know. They are not one bit for the working man of this country no matter what they tell you. The BREXIT they have in their heads is nothing like the one you have in yours.They are all sound bites and bull shyte and they are fooling the masses just like Thatcher did. And what a wonderful woman she turned out to be. Not saying you can't have a brexit but reject the fools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    Come on guys, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage? Really? They are both imbeciles you only have to look at them to know that. They are borderline insane and that's being generous.Can you really trust your lives. families etc with the likes of these 2? Constantly ridiculed in the press and media apart from the right wing media that is. How anyone with any slight left leanings on here can entertain them I will never know. They are not one bit for the working man of this country no matter what they tell you. The BREXIT they have in their heads is nothing like the one you have in yours.They are all sound bites and bull shyte and they are fooling the masses just like Thatcher did. And what a wonderful woman she turned out to be. Not saying you can't have a brexit but reject the fools.
    Enjoy the read.

    Nigel Farage has quit Ukip after 25 years, saying the party he led to its greatest election successes was now unrecognisable because of the “fixation” with the anti-Muslim policies of its leader, Gerard Batten.

    Farage, who took Ukip to third place by number of votes in the 2015 election and significantly shaped the ground for the Brexit referendum, said he was dismayed by Batten’s policies and his decision to appoint the far-right campaigner Tommy Robinson as an adviser.

    Writing in the Daily Telegraph, Farage condemned Batten’s decision to throw Ukip’s support behind an anti-Brexit demonstration in London on Sunday organised by Robinson and his associates, saying it was likely to “inspire violence and thuggish behaviour”.

    “My heart sinks as I reflect on the idea that they may be seen by some as representative of the cause for which I have campaigned for so much of my adult life,” wrote Farage, who regularly contributes a column to the newspaper. “The very idea of Tommy Robinson being at the centre of the Brexit debate is too awful to contemplate.

    He couldn't be any more open than that could he?

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    Quote Originally Posted by rolymiller View Post
    Come on guys, Boris Johnson, Nigel Farage? Really? They are both imbeciles you only have to look at them to know that. They are borderline insane and that's being generous.Can you really trust your lives. families etc with the likes of these 2? Constantly ridiculed in the press and media apart from the right wing media that is. How anyone with any slight left leanings on here can entertain them I will never know. They are not one bit for the working man of this country no matter what they tell you. The BREXIT they have in their heads is nothing like the one you have in yours.They are all sound bites and bull shyte and they are fooling the masses just like Thatcher did. And what a wonderful woman she turned out to be. Not saying you can't have a brexit but reject the fools.
    Come on, Roly... They are both imbeciles you only have to look at them to know that. You can do better than that.

    Johnson is a socially liberal moderate on just about every issue other than Brexit. He managed to be re-elected as Mayor in a Labour dominated London (don't mention the Garden Bridge), which has to say something. It is the foot-in-mouth thing that is worrying with his gaffe on Nazanin Zaghari-Ratcliffe being particularly unforgivable for me.

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