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[ramAnag]

And whoops you did it again?

Did what? Exposed a bit of casual racism? Yes you’re probably right, it’s a habit of mine. Honestly, just think about the implications of what you’ve written/repeated…that the NHS is prioritising immigrants. It’s just totally unfounded jibberish. You have a think and leave me to watch the rugby please.

[Andy_Faber]

In the history of daft answers that has to be one of the silliest.

So you think a minority of people in your village (sorry, actually one person) ‘hijacking’s flag poles’ is symptomatic of the UK losing its culture do you? Honestly?

My ‘berkas slipping’. What’s that meant to mean? Not as much as your grasp of common sense it would seem…and my comment (relayed from Germany) was simply to illustrate how dependent various services have become on those who’ve arrived from abroad, it wasn’t designed to set off one of your rants, but hey ho.

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?.which yet again exposes your by now rather boring tactics - a point is made which you don?t agree with. You demand examples. You get examples. You belittle, without researching, the examples and belittle the person who offered them. I will break with my normal restraint and say God help any student you ever disagreed with. I observe that you embrace any anecdote that sides with you despite some recently, and I?m now not surprised you were unaware, being no more than urban myths

[ramAnag]

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?.which yet again exposes your by now rather boring tactics - a point is made which you don?t agree with. You demand examples. You get examples. You belittle, without researching, the examples and belittle the person who offered them. I will break with my normal restraint and say God help any student you ever disagreed with. I observe that you embrace any anecdote that sides with you despite some recently, and I?m now not surprised you were unaware, being no more than urban myths

Andy, what you’ve written tonight is rubbish. I’m sorry but that’s the truth. Without going back into history, because this isn’t the first time, if you’re asked for examples of how UK culture is being eroded and the best you can come up with is a minority (no, ONE person) who hijacked some flagpoles in ‘your village’ then you’ve lost the argument and as regards your last sentence, it isn’t even intelligible.

You and I will often disagree, that’s almost the point of a forum, but you really do need to have a good look at what you’ve written tonight.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Andy, what you’ve written tonight is rubbish. I’m sorry but that’s the truth. Without going back into history, because this isn’t the first time, if you’re asked for examples of how UK culture is being eroded and the best you can come up with is a minority (no, ONE person) who hijacked some flagpoles in ‘your village’ then you’ve lost the argument and as regards your last sentence, it isn’t even intelligible.

You and I will often disagree, that’s almost the point of a forum, but you really do need to have a good look at what you’ve written tonight.

I'm feeling that my standing of always disagreeing with you is being usurped. Time to act to restore the status quo. Sink the boats. Put the illegals in council property in Nottingham, they will soon want to return to point of origin. But most of all stop disadvantaging our own homeless and benefits dependent sub classes with preferences to boat people.

Hg a, that's better

[Geoff Parkstone]

Based solely on evidence of a month in hospitals last year I'd say staff 80% immigrant / 2nd or 3rd generation immigrant and 10% patient of similar origin. Sample restricted to male patients only, across 2 hospitals - one in London, 1i in Surrey

[Trickytreesreds]

still don't think the west didn't do its part in lighting the touch paper of Ukraine? Been years in the making, just waiting for a Putin to come along

https://fb.watch/y54E4eqZqN/

[SithHappens]

See our Nige has been giving Zelenskyy fashion advice. It's nice n all of him even if it's a bit like Prince William giving Harry Styles hair styling advice.

[Andy_Faber]

Based solely on evidence of a month in hospitals last year I'd say staff 80% immigrant / 2nd or 3rd generation immigrant and 10% patient of similar origin. Sample restricted to male patients only, across 2 hospitals - one in London, 1i in Surrey

Actually similar to mine in the area of elective/inpatient surgery but it?s not all about numbers, my consultant (an Indian, sorry no idea of generation) has such bad English that I?ve had to have my condition explained to me more than once by one of his colleagues (also Indian) with perfect English. I?d have happily expanded on my friend (ironically also an immigrant and one I?ve mentioned before)?s frustrations, but don?t see any point when we have someone shouting ?you?re a racist!? at any sign of deviation from his party line

[ramAnag]

Actually similar to mine in the area of elective/inpatient surgery but it?s not all about numbers, my consultant (an Indian, sorry no idea of generation) has such bad English that I?ve had to have my condition explained to me more than once by one of his colleagues (also Indian) with perfect English. I?d have happily expanded on my friend (ironically also an immigrant and one I?ve mentioned before)?s frustrations, but don?t see any point when we have someone shouting ?you?re a racist!? at any sign of deviation from his party line

Hmmm…so you’d agree with GP’s seemingly sensible suggestion that, in his recent experience, about 10% of patients are likely to be immigrants, but support your friend’s description of the NHS as a service for immigrants? How can that make sense?

As regards frustrations with the quality of spoken English. Surely it is a prerequisite of any doctor to be able to communicate effectively. If a doctor’s English is genuinely so bad that they can’t be understood then I for one can’t understand how anyone would call you racist for politely pointing that out and seeking clarification.

[Andy_Faber]

still don't think the west didn't do its part in lighting the touch paper of Ukraine? Been years in the making, just waiting for a Putin to come along

https://fb.watch/y54E4eqZqN/

Not been discussed as much as I?d expected here but Zelensky showed a lot of bravery standing up to those bullies in what IMO was clearly a setup, I also think he?s shown other statesmen that they don?t need to succumb to every American whim. I was sort of hoping Zelensky was going to pop out with ?Look Don. Just STFU for a minute?
Good to see Starmer (misnamed as Lord Starmer on newsfeeds where I currently am) at last taking the lead in subsequent discussions