Coronavirus and football.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Something that's been bothering me since I got into a rare face to face public argument with someone a while back, is the term 'mincer' now on the PC blacklist? To me its a valid term related to 'camp' but I was shouted down for being homophobic. IMO Rylan minces with the best of them, and I couldn't give a stuff (?) about his ***uality. I guess bell-end is OK although I use a hyphen

I'd guess almost any phrase is now non PC, and with "mincer" having been an almost historic slang term from the days when Jack Smethurst was king, its most likely still sat on the naughty step. The polari word "mince" simply means to walk "affectedly" so whilst not directly linked to gay community, its pretty damned close.

Interestingly though the term "snowflake", originally used negatively against Jack, has now been hijacked and recycled via Fight Club into a different form of negativity.

So perhaps anyone objecting o "mincer" is in fact now a "snowflake"?

[MadAmster]

Glad to hear that. Coronavirus isn't the only killer and it'll have a cure before there's one for all cancers

Will there be a cure any time soon though? Has there ever been one found for Spanish Flu, a virus which still exists but doesn't cause huge problems anymore? Was one found for SARS? Or for MERS? Or for AIDS?

There are 70 groups, apparently, working worldwide who appear to be making some progress on a cure. 3 of them are said to be "almost there" and a vaccine could be available by September according to one group from Oxford.

My own opinion is that they won't find a viable vaccine and C-19 will stop being a danger to mankind in the huge way it currently is, within 18 months, much in the way of SARS, and there will never be a cure.

Just realised that, on Thursday, we enter week 6 since the partial lockdown started. After 5 days it became what it now is. Time really does fly when you're having fun..........

[swaledale]

Similar reports over here Ram. Last week a cardiologist on a late night talk show said that there is a drop in heart problems being reported to GPs and hospitals, something like an average of 60% down and as high as 75% in some places. Other medical specialities are also seeing large drops in patient numbers. The specialists are worried that people with very genuine and possibly life threatening conditions aren't reporting it as they fear catching Corona at the GPs or in hospital. It was stressed that Corona patients aren't in the same areas of a hospital as heart and other patients. They recommended everybody to contact a health professional if they think they have a problem in exactly the way they would have pre Corona.

I read somewhere which I can't recall now, that there could be 150,00 deaths due to the lockdown. No idea how they estimate that but frightening if only half true.

[Trickytreesreds]

I read somewhere which I can't recall now, that there could be 150,00 deaths due to the lockdown. No idea how they estimate that but frightening if only half true.

Baring in mind, the death numbers released are hospital related. You could be right.
Saying that, after seeing the pictures smuggled out of Wuhan of the bodies wrapped up in sheets, house after house.
What is the true figure in China?
A Chinese billionaire weeks ago, claimed it was over 150 000?
That was weeks ago and certainly a long way from the 3500 official figure.

The lies the Chinese keep telling, has high lighted why anyone would want to deal with them in business?
Dodgy doesn't even cover it.

[ramAnag]

Will there be a cure any time soon though? Has there ever been one found for Spanish Flu, a virus which still exists but doesn't cause huge problems anymore? Was one found for SARS? Or for MERS? Or for AIDS?

Not forgetting that ‘flesh eating’ virus that was going to be rife in hospitals a few years ago and Legionnaires Disease...the symptoms of which were almost identical to Covid-19, but which I seem to remember coming from dodgy contaminated water.

[Andy_Faber]

Not forgetting that ‘flesh eating’ virus that was going to be rife in hospitals a few years ago and Legionnaires Disease...the symptoms of which were almost identical to Covid-19, but which I seem to remember coming from dodgy contaminated water.

The difference with Legionnaires disease is its bacterial not viral so can't spread from the source of contamination. Still around though, and was around for ages before the massive outbreak at the Legionaire's reunion that gave it its modern name

[Trickytreesreds]

So, can we kiss the football season goodbye. If this message is anything to go by, us fans will not be seeing a game for some time.


Nadine Dorries

The Tory MP said on Twitter: "Journalists should stop asking about an ‘exit strategy.’

"There is only one way we can ‘exit’ full lockdown and that is when we have a vaccine.

"Until then, we need to find ways we can adapt society and strike a balance between the health of the nation and our economy."

The chances of a vaccine before 2021 look remote. So next season as well affected?

[MadAmster]

So, can we kiss the football season goodbye. If this message is anything to go by, us fans will not be seeing a game for some time.


Nadine Dorries

The Tory MP said on Twitter: "Journalists should stop asking about an ‘exit strategy.’

"There is only one way we can ‘exit’ full lockdown and that is when we have a vaccine.

"Until then, we need to find ways we can adapt society and strike a balance between the health of the nation and our economy."

The chances of a vaccine before 2021 look remote. So next season as well affected?

At that rate there won't be enough clubs left to form a 20 team League. I'm pretty damned sure that there might be a dozen at most left if this goes on another 15 months.

On a brighter note (rA). Some countries have announced the first easing of measures. If that doesn't lead to a resurgence in cases/deaths they will announce the next raft of easing and so on.

No date on any easing here in the Netherlands as yet BUT the PM did offer some hope at a press conference yesterday. He comfirmed that they would be addressing the current state of play, which runs until April 28th, next Tuesday and make any changes known in a press conference that same day. He did temper that by saying there would be no instant return for all. Any easing would be done a bit at a time. A "suck it and see" strategy. What do I read into this? My expectation is that nurseries and infant schools will be first to reopen which will allow some parents working in ***** sectors to return to work. Next would be secondary schools, colleges and universities. Then those businesses with a detailed 1.5m social distancing plan. One popular Dutch female singer has said she wants to get back on stage that badly that she would be prepared to do her show 3 or 4 times a night so that everybody who had tickets would be able to see it. Basically, if a 600 capacity club could only take 200 due to distancing measures, she would do the show 3 times that night to accommodate everybody who had tickets.

He then clarified things further by reiterating that the 1.5m society is here to stay. No mention of "until we get a vaccine" but "here to stay". He gave all sectors of life and business an olive branch, not just per sector but individually. Each and every business wishing to reopen has to provide the government with a detailed plan of how they intend to be able to be open for business within the bounds of the 1.5m society. No detailed plan? Then you don't reopen despite the competition 3 doors down opening because they HAD filed a detailed plan.

No quick respite (and I'm talking weeks not months) will see a huge number of bars, restaurants and clubs filing for bankruptcy. Half a dozen theatres/clubs/concert venues have already shut for good. One late night show had the chairman of the bar/club/restaurant/hospitality sector association on the show last night. He said he expects to see the number of closures being huge. Between 2000 and 3000 will shut at the end of April once the rent and wages have been paid. The end of May will see a catastrophe because that is the time when the annual holiday pay is paid out. That on top of another round of rent and wages will have seen 35% of all bars/clubs/restaurants etc bankrupt.

[Trickytreesreds]

At that rate there won't be enough clubs left to form a 20 team League. I'm pretty damned sure that there might be a dozen at most left if this goes on another 15 months.

On a brighter note (rA). Some countries have announced the first easing of measures. If that doesn't lead to a resurgence in cases/deaths they will announce the next raft of easing and so on.

No date on any easing here in the Netherlands as yet BUT the PM did offer some hope at a press conference yesterday. He comfirmed that they would be addressing the current state of play, which runs until April 28th, next Tuesday and make any changes known in a press conference that same day. He did temper that by saying there would be no instant return for all. Any easing would be done a bit at a time. A "suck it and see" strategy. What do I read into this? My expectation is that nurseries and infant schools will be first to reopen which will allow some parents working in ***** sectors to return to work. Next would be secondary schools, colleges and universities. Then those businesses with a detailed 1.5m social distancing plan. One popular Dutch female singer has said she wants to get back on stage that badly that she would be prepared to do her show 3 or 4 times a night so that everybody who had tickets would be able to see it. Basically, if a 600 capacity club could only take 200 due to distancing measures, she would do the show 3 times that night to accommodate everybody who had tickets.

He then clarified things further by reiterating that the 1.5m society is here to stay. No mention of "until we get a vaccine" but "here to stay". He gave all sectors of life and business an olive branch, not just per sector but individually. Each and every business wishing to reopen has to provide the government with a detailed plan of how they intend to be able to be open for business within the bounds of the 1.5m society. No detailed plan? Then you don't reopen despite the competition 3 doors down opening because they HAD filed a detailed plan.

No quick respite (and I'm talking weeks not months) will see a huge number of bars, restaurants and clubs filing for bankruptcy. Half a dozen theatres/clubs/concert venues have already shut for good. One late night show had the chairman of the bar/club/restaurant/hospitality sector association on the show last night. He said he expects to see the number of closures being huge. Between 2000 and 3000 will shut at the end of April once the rent and wages have been paid. The end of May will see a catastrophe because that is the time when the annual holiday pay is paid out. That on top of another round of rent and wages will have seen 35% of all bars/clubs/restaurants etc bankrupt.

It's not all bad then?

Wow

[Geoff Parkstone]

So the fute of Clogland as a destination for stag nights look bleak. A few bars and restaurants in Amsterdam where you can sit far enough apart, no "dance clubs" as broadly defined - it's tricky dancing 2m apart! But worst of all its the end of the red light district...

Still at least it would be the end of Northern Soul.

And indeed the end of the Amish practice of working together to raise barns