O/T Coronavirus Thread (3)

[ragingpup]

I consider myself to be left of the Labour party but have never in 62 years ever associated the word Socialism with Russia or china etc. What has happened there is not remotely owt to do with socialism, state capitalism perhaps which is an entirely different matter.This is just a label given to labour by the right wing press to scare voters from voting for them at elections.

I have lived through a few Labour govts and not one has remotely acted like the ones in Russia and China. Load of bollax and ignorant people need to read up on socialism and understand what it really means...

We know what it means Roles but the general public have a very different idea of what it means and I've come to think it works against us. The problem is that people won't read up on socialism and will probably not take kindly to being called ignorant for not doing so. I'm happy to ditch the terminology of it removes a very easy stick to beat us with

[rolymiller]

Just to add it wasnt me who started mentioning the labour party to sidetrack the coronavirus argument before anyone gets the titty lip on...

[rolymiller]

We know what it means Roles but the general public have a very different idea of what it means and I've come to think it works against us. The problem is that people won't read up on socialism and will probably not take kindly to being called ignorant for not doing so. I'm happy to ditch the terminology of it removes a very easy stick to beat us with

Well it certainly suits the ruling classes that people are more willing to believe them than think for themselves. Come on use your noggins folks and don't believe all the crap you hear...

Unfortunately in general human beings don't question things till its too late....they let others think for them and trust they will do the right thing for them.. unfortunately the thinkers are really only thinking whats good for themselves...

[Exiletyke]

Well it certainly suits the ruling classes that people are more willing to believe them than think for themselves. Come on use your noggins folks and don't believe all the crap you hear...

Unfortunately in general human beings don't question things till its too late....they let others think for them and trust they will do the right thing for them.. unfortunately the thinkers are really only thinking whats good for themselves...

I think raging has a point roly
The media have waged a constant tirade subtle & subliminal & often blunt against the term socialism/socialist to the point where the word itself has become almost taboo
This has been going on for years & the start of the USSR was always adversely reported but little mention of life pre USSR which frankly was just as brutal. Read Ken Folletts Fall of Giants. Quite an eyeopener
Interesting the origin of the word Tory which is as follows
The word Tory derives from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe; modern Irish tóraÃ*; modern Scottish Gaelic Tòraidh: outlaw, robber or brigand, from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit", since outlaws were "pursued men".

How many know that?
The labour party needs to think on

[Lasterman]

Sorry to bring this back to Coronavirus, but I keep hearing that BAME groups are disproportionally affected by he virus...14% of the population but 34% of the serious hospital cases.

I don't doubt this is true, but to lump everyone together who aren't the ethnic majority seems unhelpful at best, and dismissive at worst. Has anyone seen any figures broken down by ethnic group? I'm not affected directly but if I was I'd certainly want to know.

[great_fire]

I think raging has a point roly
The media have waged a constant tirade subtle & subliminal & often blunt against the term socialism/socialist to the point where the word itself has become almost taboo
This has been going on for years & the start of the USSR was always adversely reported but little mention of life pre USSR which frankly was just as brutal. Read Ken Folletts Fall of Giants. Quite an eyeopener
Interesting the origin of the word Tory which is as follows
The word Tory derives from the Middle Irish word tóraidhe; modern Irish tóraÃ*; modern Scottish Gaelic Tòraidh: outlaw, robber or brigand, from the Irish word tóir, meaning "pursuit", since outlaws were "pursued men".

How many know that?
The labour party needs to think on

Socialism isn't a dirty word in the UK, it is in the USA though not as much as it used to be, old Bernie Sanders has a strong following with the young and the Woke.

[the_idiotb_stardson]

This is a censorship question worthy of its own thread in my opinion.

[LincsMiller]

This is a censorship question worthy of its own thread in my opinion.

As long as its not to let all of us of a senior age to just succumb to covid19 my answer is yes.

Long time no see ibs

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

Animals & the coronavirus
Two Mink farms in the Netherlands, have been put into quarantine, after found to be infected with the new coronavirus, ( new ? ), The Agriculture Ministry said today, urging people to report any other likely cases in animals.

It seems a man took Trumps advice on disinfectant >
A man in Turkey died after consuming ethanol & disinfectant, in a attempt to protect himself against coronavirus.

[great_fire]

Animals & the coronavirus
Two Mink farms in the Netherlands, have been put into quarantine, after found to be infected with the new coronavirus, ( new ? ), The Agriculture Ministry said today, urging people to report any other likely cases in animals.

It seems a man took Trumps advice on disinfectant >
A man in Turkey died after consuming ethanol & disinfectant, in a attempt to protect himself against coronavirus.

People in neighbouring Iran already did dumb stuff like that before Trump's confusing speech.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...-a9429956.html