O/T:- Vaccines: Pro/Anti & Conspiracy Theories [Originally Covid Pass and Meadow Ln.]

[upthemaggies]

Let's face it, we've gone from "vaccines will prevent you getting Covid" to "vaccines will prevent serious illness" and it's now about to shift to "vaccines prevent you from dying".

[magpie_mania]

Let's face it, we've gone from "vaccines will prevent you getting Covid" to "vaccines will prevent serious illness" and it's now about to shift to "vaccines prevent you from dying".

Not a bad reason really for having jabs!

[cher1]

Vaccines reduce the likelihood of catching covid, of being seriously ill from covid, and from death with covid. That seems a bit of a win to me.

[applepie2]

Let's face it, we've gone from "vaccines will prevent you getting Covid" to "vaccines will prevent serious illness" and it's now about to shift to "vaccines prevent you from dying".

Except we haven’t, apart perhaps from in the popular press. Scientists involved in assessing the effectiveness of vaccines have been far more cautious over their claims.

[i961pie]

Except we haven’t, apart perhaps from in the popular press. Scientists involved in assessing the effectiveness of vaccines have been far more cautious over their claims.

Well less people have died since vaccines have been introduced.

[upthemaggies]

Disclaimer: This post is for entertainment purposes only.

A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend in a mental asylum whose name is Aid, told me this.....

They were trying to develop vaccines with this new technology for Sars-1 and Mers, but there was a problem. In the early months of Covid-19 they were admitting a vaccine would be many years away, because they knew of the problem. The race was now on between rival states and drug companies to come up with a solution. To get around the problem, somebody came up with the bright idea that they could ask for the liability laws to be changed, as a matter of emergency ,so they could now bypass the problem and roll out the untested experimental vaccine to the public hoping the problem would not arise. A trial on humans was brought to a sudden halt when they decided it wouldn't be ethical to deny the control group vaccines in the face of the pandemic. The control group was eradicated.

Another crazy person in the asylum likened the human immune system to a finely tuned orchestra with a conductor, imagine - he said - a little replica of you holding the baton commanding the orchestra when to play, what to play, how fast and how loud. What this vaccine does is creep up behind the conductor, slits his throat, takes hold of the baton and then commands the orchestra to play at full volume, all instruments, as fast as and frantic as they possibly can. The conductor eventually collapses with fatigue and dies. The orchestra stops playing, exhausted and deficient. A booster sends in a new conductor and the process is repeated. What becomes of the orchestra? How long can they keep this up? Nobody knows. This has never been done before.

The above is, of course, crazy talk.

For those posting the links to the BBC and Nottingham Post articles, you absolutely should trust what they say and not actual official figures, only a crazy person would do that.

Stay sane and be well.

[applepie2]

Well less people have died since vaccines have been introduced.

Yes. What I was disagreeing with was a claim that the story has kept changing, from “the vaccines do everything we could have hoped” to “at least you might not die” (paraphrase). The vaccines have been very successful, but we are chasing a moving target, partly because we haven’t made any real effort to vaccinate the whole world.

For what it’s worth, I don’t think lockdown after lockdown is much of an answer to the long term problems.

[SwalePie]

Disclaimer: This post is for entertainment purposes only.

A friend of a friend of a friend of a friend in a mental asylum whose name is Aid, told me this.....

They were trying to develop vaccines with this new technology for Sars-1 and Mers, but there was a problem. In the early months of Covid-19 they were admitting a vaccine would be many years away, because they knew of the problem. The race was now on between rival states and drug companies to come up with a solution. To get around the problem, somebody came up with the bright idea that they could ask for the liability laws to be changed, as a matter of emergency ,so they could now bypass the problem and roll out the untested experimental vaccine to the public hoping the problem would not arise. A trial on humans was brought to a sudden halt when they decided it wouldn't be ethical to deny the control group vaccines in the face of the pandemic. The control group was eradicated.

Another crazy person in the asylum likened the human immune system to a finely tuned orchestra with a conductor, imagine - he said - a little replica of you holding the baton commanding the orchestra when to play, what to play, how fast and how loud. What this vaccine does is creep up behind the conductor, slits his throat, takes hold of the baton and then commands the orchestra to play at full volume, all instruments, as fast as and frantic as they possibly can. The conductor eventually collapses with fatigue and dies. The orchestra stops playing, exhausted and deficient. A booster sends in a new conductor and the process is repeated. What becomes of the orchestra? How long can they keep this up? Nobody knows. This has never been done before.

The above is, of course, crazy talk.

For those posting the links to the BBC and Nottingham Post articles, you absolutely should trust what they say and not actual official figures, only a crazy person would do that.

Stay sane and be well.

I posted the actual official figures (post #215) prior to backing them up with the news quotes (post #218).

[upthemaggies]

Just had talksport on briefly, they had breaking news of a Covid outbreak at Man Utd, also mentioning Spurs game being PPd.
They brought up the case of the Arsenal manager last year who was the first high profile person in English football to come down with it and how quickly it went from that to the season being cancelled. I think it was 3 weeks.

[matt_magpie]

Just had talksport on briefly, they had breaking news of a Covid outbreak at Man Utd, also mentioning Spurs game being PPd.
They brought up the case of the Arsenal manager last year who was the first high profile person in English football to come down with it and how quickly it went from that to the season being cancelled. I think it was 3 weeks.

It’s suddenly looking very bleak, will we be in Stadiums in Jan? Even worse as you alluded to, will there be any football?