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    I saw some of the Palace U23 highlights on YouTube a few months ago, seemed to be a big part of that team and I'm sure I saw him wearing the captain's armband in a few of the matches, so obviously well thought of down there

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    Quote Originally Posted by BackRowArab View Post
    I saw some of the Palace U23 highlights on YouTube a few months ago, seemed to be a big part of that team and I'm sure I saw him wearing the captain's armband in a few of the matches, so obviously well thought of down there
    just my opinion but i feel his career would have advanced better (maybe) and faster (def) staying for a few years. Like others too. But we will never know.

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    I’ll never understand the logic of these guys like Banks. The chances of them making it through that sort of move at that age are negligible to zero. Scott Allan is obviously the prime example but even more recently you can look at Kieran Freeman as well as a further example. Compare and contrast similarly aged Scott Allan with Stuart Armstrong. One stayed and completed his dues, the other chased the filthy lucre. Look where they respectively are now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    I’ll never understand the logic of these guys like Banks. The chances of them making it through that sort of move at that age are negligible to zero. Scott Allan is obviously the prime example but even more recently you can look at Kieran Freeman as well as a further example. Compare and contrast similarly aged Scott Allan with Stuart Armstrong. One stayed and completed his dues, the other chased the filthy lucre. Look where they respectively are now.
    On the flip side you have boys like Billy Gilmour and Ryan Fraser more than 1 way to skin a cat

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    Quote Originally Posted by arab1970 View Post
    On the flip side you have boys like Billy Gilmour and Ryan Fraser more than 1 way to skin a cat
    I would argue they are the exceptions that prove the rule IMHO. I guarantee there are/have been many, many more who have conversely failed to make it by going too early. I think one of the major issues is agents getting in to these young guy’s heads and promising the earth while in reality all that’s important to the agent is their personal commission.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JamesMcClean View Post
    I would argue they are the exceptions that prove the rule IMHO. I guarantee there are/have been many, many more who have conversely failed to make it by going too early. I think one of the major issues is agents getting in to these young guy’s heads and promising the earth while in reality all that’s important to the agent is their personal commission.
    You also have to have a Manager who will play them, we have shipped all our best young players out on loan. If a big club comes in for them this summer who would blame them for leaving. Better to be loaned out on 2k a week than loaned out on 200

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    I can't really blame any young kid for seeing the bright lights and wanting to go for it. It shows ambition & a confidence in their own ability. They should however, be being advised far better, not so much by agents (who are after only one thing) but family. Parents should be able to see the risk involved. To let a kid of 17/18 disappear miles away from home to another clubs academy with no guarantee of ever becoming a first team regular is crazy. As has been said, the amount of kids who have been a success compared to those who have done the square root of f*ck all is there for all to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    I can't really blame any young kid for seeing the bright lights and wanting to go for it. It shows ambition & a confidence in their own ability. They should however, be being advised far better, not so much by agents (who are after only one thing) but family. Parents should be able to see the risk involved. To let a kid of 17/18 disappear miles away from home to another clubs academy with no guarantee of ever becoming a first team regular is crazy. As has been said, the amount of kids who have been a success compared to those who have done the square root of f*ck all is there for all to see.
    I remember at the time that Allan was being advised by some @rsehole of an agent while Stretch had his Dad acting for him. I would argue that at the time talent wise there was absolutely nothing between them but who can now be seen as a success and who is not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by tHeArAb View Post
    I can't really blame any young kid for seeing the bright lights and wanting to go for it. It shows ambition & a confidence in their own ability. They should however, be being advised far better, not so much by agents (who are after only one thing) but family. Parents should be able to see the risk involved. To let a kid of 17/18 disappear miles away from home to another clubs academy with no guarantee of ever becoming a first team regular is crazy. As has been said, the amount of kids who have been a success compared to those who have done the square root of f*ck all is there for all to see.
    Agree with the above,nothing wrong if they are going to the bright lights to join a first team squad but its very risky going through the academy system where only around 1 or 2 in hundred make it into the first team.

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    I don't mind players "chasing the money" if they had proved themselves or at least played a good amount in the first team. That would at least stand them well if they were to go down south. Learn your trade, gain the experience before trying to make an impact down south. Some of these clubs have so many academy players that it must be very hard to break through never mind get anywhere near the first team. So many get thrown about on loan all over the place.

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