O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[BigLadonOS]

I'm not BL. I'M basing it on the number of labour voters who voted remain in the referendum. It was 65%.I've posted the link twice to the you gov data. I didnt even mention the EU elections. I don't dispute that the majority of the towns in the areas you mention have deserted labour. If labour switch to backing remain, we will probably lose the vast majority of these for good. But as the majority of labour voted in England and GB overall for remain 65% (of you don't believe me, look out up for yourself and post me different) we stand to lose many more of we backed Leave, much as this is on balance Corbyn's option of with a deal. As I've said, some of my family (especially London in laws) think labour have betrayed them already by not falling behind remain earlier, and probably won't vote them again. But at the end of the day, they're as stubborn as you are as they see any deal as betrayal. What a ****ing mess.

In the 2016 EU referendum, 148 Labour constituencies voted to leave, 84 to remain.
https://fullfact.org/online/referend...-constituency/

Surely if they are Labour constituencies they are labour voters.

[Timbertop]

Be interesting to see what the people of Peterborough have voted for today. Expecting the first Brexit Party MP to be elected by a comfortable majority. The reactions from the likes of Vince EU Cable will be revealing.

[BigLadonOS]

Be interesting to see what the people of Peterborough have voted for today. Expecting the first Brexit Party MP to be elected by a comfortable majority. The reactions from the likes of Vince EU Cable will be revealing.

Very true.

[ragingpup]

In the 2016 EU referendum, 148 Labour constituencies voted to leave, 84 to remain.
https://fullfact.org/online/referend...-constituency/

Surely if they are Labour constituencies they are labour voters.

Read the full fact article I linked to this morning. That discusses it in terms of constituencies

[great_fire]

Friendly cooperation with Barnier, Juncker, Verhofstadt, Tusk and their bosses Merkel and Macron, good luck with that, they barely crack a smile except Juncker when he's on the sauce.

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Friendly cooperation with Barnier, Juncker, Verhofstadt, Tusk and their bosses Merkel and Macron, good luck with that, they barely crack a smile except Juncker when he's on the sauce.

Right from the beginning we should have told them we were leaving because the referendum result said so and left it to them to chase a deal with us.

But the remoaners threw that advantage away.

[John2]

Right from the beginning we should have told them we were leaving because the referendum result said so and left it to them to chase a deal with us.

But the remoaners threw that advantage away.

lol, you're so naive to have believed the hard Brexiteers that this would have happened.

27 countries vs 1. No deal is bad for everybody, but the impact of losing our free trade to 1/28th of the group is a lot more diluted than us losing 27/28 countries of the free market access we currently enjoy. Basic numbers. The average EU country does around 10% of it's trade with the UK, we do closer to 50% of ours with the EU - do you realise how many jobs that is!?

They always held all the cards in negotiations.

I've not seen any rational, reason based argument to the counter, just "muhhh, believe in Britain, muhhh Commonwealth, muhhh we won World war 2"

[WanChaiMiller]

I don't agree with this. I think most voters expected to leave the EU and then get a deal.

Read the quote from leave website above. Most people thought we would leave with a deal. It would be the easiest thing ever. They need us more than we need them.

[ragingpup]

Labour beat Brexit Party to hold Peterborough. That was predicted to be a safe Brexit return as 60% voted Leave. Must say I'm very surprised. Very small margins though. Don't think it'll change the fact that Labour need to change tack on Brexit.

[great_fire]

Labour beat Brexit Party to hold Peterborough. That was predicted to be a safe Brexit return as 60% voted Leave. Must say I'm very surprised. Very small margins though. Don't think it'll change the fact that Labour need to change tack on Brexit.

Lots of people from Poland and Eastern Europe in Peterborough though, they're not going to vote for the Brexit Party.