O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Magpies1959]

Well the experts were massively wrong about covid, so who knows what else they could be wrong about. It is impossible to believe anyone about anything in this world anymore, sadly, yes even 'the experts'. Unless you can prove something yourself, I suggest taking all that you hear with a pinch of salt. Some of it will be true of course, but that will be things where money and politics are not involved.

[jackal2]

Broadly speaking I backed the Government's initial lockdown because it seemed to be the approach recommended by the 'majority of experts', but after a few months there did come a point where many people were questioning whether it had gone on too long and could have been eased more quickly.

I was still willing to give the policy the benefit of the doubt given the apparent conviction with which a Conservative government was willing to advocate such an un-business-friendly policy, but when you see videos like this, not to mention Matt Hancock's snogfest in his office, it proves beyond doubt that government insiders and civil servants self-evidently did not consider the 'Covid risk' to be as great as they were telling the public. They might have been right or wrong in that judgement, but the fact that their private actions didn't match their public message is where public trust was lost.

There's been a lot of talk about lies, which is a bit of a red herring because most of the public know politicians on all sides tell lies or at least are 'economical with the truth'. The thing the public really don't like is the concept of politicians telling them "Do as I say, not as I do". That kind of hypocrisy is far more likely to lose votes.

[upthemaggies]

Having "trust in" something is faith. When you're not allowed to question "the science", that is not science, it's a religious cult.

"Unexplained" ongoing excess deaths in heavily vaccinated countries across all age groups tells you all you need to know and this is just the start. They lied about it staying in the injection site (as they did about it preventing spread, Biden literally told the American public they would not get Covid if they got the vaccine), it broke the blood brain barrier, it's been found everywhere, liver, heart, reproductive areas and brain. Heart issues today will become cancer issues tomorrow. It's an unmitigated disaster.

The good news is that not all batches were the same dose, so it was basically a health lottery in reverse.

[Jampie]

The truth about covid is that countries that largely kept it out of their populations and then massively vaccinated had fewer than half the deaths of countries that failed to manage it.

The notion that Boris Johnson is a zero-integrity charlatan should be a surprise to nobody and has nothing to do with science or medicine.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

The truth about covid is that countries that largely kept it out of their populations and then massively vaccinated had fewer than half the deaths of countries that failed to manage it.

The notion that Boris Johnson is a zero-integrity charlatan should be a surprise to nobody and has nothing to do with science or medicine.

Any news on the long term side effects courtesy of the untested Vaccine as yet ? or are they hiding this from us because we wont like what we hear ????
its probably the only last legacy that Boris has left which will also crumble to dust like his Got Brexit done when the truth comes out !!

[Jampie]

Any news on the long term side effects courtesy of the untested Vaccine as yet ? or are they hiding this from us because we wont like what we hear ????
its probably the only last legacy that Boris has left which will also crumble to dust like his Got Brexit done when the truth comes out !!

The vaccines were tested and now there have been many billions of doses given.

No long term negative effects have been identified.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

The vaccines were tested and now there have been many billions of doses given.

No long term negative effects have been identified.

Nudge Nudge , wink wink !
yes I agree

[BanjoPie]

Jesus, what s load of crap being posted about vaccines by the usual ‘know it all’s’

[Magpies1959]

The thing is, 'these guys on the internet', have been proved to be right. They were just guys, that the establishment didn't want their views to be heard.

[BanjoPie]

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