O/T. The Government's handling of Covid

[ramAnag]

Do you thin consuming a gallon of Pimms may be the cause of the soreness?

More likely to be you having your egg and bacon MCC tie too tight.

[Geoff Parkstone]

More likely to be you having your egg and bacon MCC tie too tight.

Sadly I didn't think of applying 35 years ago when I knew the then Middle*** president, or I might almost have served the apprenticeship to qualify for one next decade!

They don't take kindly to knock off ties from Hong Kong

[ramAnag]

So Andy...if the guidance is so easy to find and follow...what is it?

You’re very quick to find fault with people questioning but have, as yet, to produce any sort of answer.

So, in your opinion, what is the advice/would be your advice in the following factual scenario.

A teacher falls ill with Covid and tests positive on Wednesday. Understandably too ill to work on Thursday and Friday he feels much better by Sunday evening but is still testing positive. The head has said he should be well enough to work by Monday and he feels well enough to work but, even on Monday morning, he’s still testing positive.

So he feels well enough to work but remains, according to the test, positive and infectious. What do you recommend after your ten seconds of research.
1) Go back to work and carry on regardless...or 2) Recognise that by returning to work he will be spending time indoors with maybe around forty other staff and teaching maybe five or six forty minute lessons to up to another 150 pupils all in the relatively intimate confines of a classroom where the virus might well spread.

1 would be displaying a very laudable attitude and I’m sure we’ve all done it with some of the more routine illnesses that do the rounds, but if we’re really going to get on top of this pandemic and get back to normal don’t we have to be more respectful of 2? Over to you.

[Geoff Parkstone]

So Andy...if the guidance is so easy to find and follow...what is it?

You’re very quick to find fault with people questioning but have, as yet, to produce any sort of answer.

So, in your opinion, what is the advice/would be your advice in the following factual scenario.

A teacher falls ill with Covid and tests positive on Wednesday. Understandably too ill to work on Thursday and Friday he feels much better by Sunday evening but is still testing positive. The head has said he should be well enough to work by Monday and he feels well enough to work but, even on Monday morning, he’s still testing positive.

So he feels well enough to work but remains, according to the test, positive and infectious. What do you recommend after your ten seconds of research.
1) Go back to work and carry on regardless...or 2) Recognise that by returning to work he will be spending time indoors with maybe around forty other staff and teaching maybe five or six forty minute lessons to up to another 150 pupils all in the relatively intimate confines of a classroom where the virus might well spread.

1 would be displaying a very laudable attitude and I’m sure we’ve all done it with some of the more routine illnesses that do the rounds, but if we’re really going to get on top of this pandemic and get back to normal don’t we have to be more respectful of 2? Over to you.

Thats an easy one - option 3. You're a teacher, you're soon going to have 17 weeks paid holiday over the summer, so just knock off a couple of weeks early, start your holiday early and skive off. Probably get a cheaper flight somewhere if yo head overseas before the rest of the kids and parents clog up the airports and flights, so its the right thing to do to avoid spreading it in those crowds too

[ramAnag]

Thats an easy one - option 3. You're a teacher, you're soon going to have 17 weeks paid holiday over the summer, so just knock off a couple of weeks early, start your holiday early and skive off. Probably get a cheaper flight somewhere if yo head overseas before the rest of the kids and parents clog up the airports and flights, so its the right thing to do to avoid spreading it in those crowds too

[Andy_Faber]

So Andy...if the guidance is so easy to find and follow...what is it?

You’re very quick to find fault with people questioning but have, as yet, to produce any sort of answer.

So, in your opinion, what is the advice/would be your advice in the following factual scenario.

A teacher falls ill with Covid and tests positive on Wednesday. Understandably too ill to work on Thursday and Friday he feels much better by Sunday evening but is still testing positive. The head has said he should be well enough to work by Monday and he feels well enough to work but, even on Monday morning, he’s still testing positive.

So he feels well enough to work but remains, according to the test, positive and infectious. What do you recommend after your ten seconds of research.
1) Go back to work and carry on regardless...or 2) Recognise that by returning to work he will be spending time indoors with maybe around forty other staff and teaching maybe five or six forty minute lessons to up to another 150 pupils all in the relatively intimate confines of a classroom where the virus might well spread.

1 would be displaying a very laudable attitude and I’m sure we’ve all done it with some of the more routine illnesses that do the rounds, but if we’re really going to get on top of this pandemic and get back to normal don’t we have to be more respectful of 2? Over to you.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...1-e3109cce8eae

MY advice? Dead simple, a version of, and very close to, 2.

Edit: 'You’re very quick to find fault with people questioning' has the ring of animosity about it, what's the problem?

[Trickytreesreds]

I can't wait till this government changes and to see whether the animosity is of the same intensity and vitriol.
I'm all for slagging for the right reasons, though I am not sure whether many comments are based more on natural despisement, rather than substance.

But we'll see soon enough.

[ramAnag]

I can't wait till this government changes and to see whether the animosity is of the same intensity and vitriol.
I'm all for slagging for the right reasons, though I am not sure whether many comments are based more on natural despisement, rather than substance.

But we'll see soon enough.

What ‘animosity and vitriol’? This thread is entitled ‘The Government’s Handling of Covid’. If you bother to read it, rather than just make things up, you’ll find that the ONE thing most people, including me, have ever given Boris Johnson credit for is the handling of the vaccine roll out.
There have been other things, most notably about contracts, that have attracted criticism...quite reasonably imo...however in ‘resurrecting’ the thread in recent days I haven’t indulged in any ‘animosity or vitriol’ and I don’t believe anyone else has.
Speaking personally, my sole intention has been to encourage debate about how it is being handled at the moment by a) a government sidetracked by the failings and dishonesty of its own leader and b) at a time when the increases in cases and decrease in testing and mask wearing have been correspondingly spectacular.

[swaledale]

What ‘animosity and vitriol’? This thread is entitled ‘The Government’s Handling of Covid’. If you bother to read it, rather than just make things up, you’ll find that the ONE thing most people, including me, have ever given Boris Johnson credit for is the handling of the vaccine roll out.
There have been other things, most notably about contracts, that have attracted criticism...quite reasonably imo...however in ‘resurrecting’ the thread in recent days I haven’t indulged in any ‘animosity or vitriol’ and I don’t believe anyone else has.
Speaking personally, my sole intention has been to encourage debate about how it is being handled at the moment by a) a government sidetracked by the failings and dishonesty of its own leader and b) at a time when the increases in cases and decrease in testing and mask wearing have been correspondingly spectacular.

Except Johnson did **** all about the vaccine or how it was rolled out, it was the one thing left to those who knew what they were doing!!

As for being ahead of the rest of the world with the vaccine, that didn't stop us having a massively worse death rate and as I said at the time, the rest soon caught up.

[ramAnag]

Except Johnson did **** all about the vaccine or how it was rolled out, it was the one thing left to those who knew what they were doing!!

As for being ahead of the rest of the world with the vaccine, that didn't stop us having a massively worse death rate and as I said at the time, the rest soon caught up.

Tbf Swale, the implementation of most, if not all, ‘government’ initiatives is actually put into practice by civil servants/other professionals.

Johnson at least got some of the Covid calls right...particularly in relation to the role out of the vaccine...and considering I’d almost certainly share your opinion that he has been the worst, most dishonest, most lacking in integrity, most bumbling, least competent and frankly most embarrassing PM of all time...let’s give some credit where it is due.