Election Year or Fear!

[Trickytreesreds]

The man who hasn’t stopped obsessing over Starmer since last July? He means people who disagree with him. Take it as a compliment.

I told you especially, that after that election, I was going to launch into Starmer and crew, after your daily, every thread attempts to poo the Tories. We got it the Tories were ****, but I also told you this lot would be no better. In fact they are worse.

[ramAnag]

I told you especially, that after that election, I was going to launch into Starmer and crew, after your daily, every thread attempts to poo the Tories. We got it the Tories were ****, but I also told you this lot would be no better. In fact they are worse.

…in your opinion, which of course you are entitled to.

However you are, as ever, missing the point. At least my objections to the likes of Johnson, Hancock, Cummings, Patel and Truss - which the electorate appeared to share - were based on their actions, not on what you anticipated happening.
You had, by your own admission, made your mind up on Starmer even before day one, so it seems a bit rich for you to call another poster ‘obsessed’ over Farage when you consider his self serving track record of causing havoc in this country over the last ten years or more.

[Andy_Faber]

?in your opinion, which of course you are entitled to.

However you are, as ever, missing the point. At least my objections to the likes of Johnson, Hancock, Cummings, Patel and Truss - which the electorate appeared to share - were based on their actions, not on what you anticipated happening.
You had, by your own admission, made your mind up on Starmer even before day one, so it seems a bit rich for you to call another poster ?obsessed? over Farage when you consider his self serving track record of causing havoc in this country over the last ten years or more.

But I think he?s right rA, you are both obsessed in your different ways. At least you keep it relatively civil, there?s some real hate elsewhere on the internet

[Trickytreesreds]

No, you just assume because a small minority might be what you say then all are.

And what in earth are you on about, why do I want to trash Jews? Why should I be on a free Palestine march?

What do you mean same ilk as me?

self explanatory

You take a great delight in assuming Farage/Trump etc say things that they actually dont. Did you even watch that video, as what you wrote has absolutely nothing to do with your insinuation. The palestine marches are riddled with those that assume like you

[Trickytreesreds]

back on my subject. These two are outright liars and deserve all the flak they are getting.
The Labour MP’s who decided to earn their 90k salary by swanning off to interfere in Middle East conflict have released a statement. Wait for it; the they also took their aides also paid for by us.
They lied and claimed to be part of an official delegation visiting Israel on behalf of the British parliament, however, this turned out to be untrue.
They were denied entrance to Israel on Saturday, after an investigation reportedly revealed that the two wished to enter the country to document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred, Israel's Population and Immigration Authority announced.
At airport security, the passengers claimed to be part of an official delegation visiting Israel on behalf of the British parliament.
However, the Population and Immigration Authority claimed this was untrue as no official in Israel had approved the arrival of the delegation.
The Labour Party is clearly STILL riddled with anti semite lefties and Islamist.

[MadAmster]

back on my subject. These two are outright liars and deserve all the flak they are getting.
The Labour MP?s who decided to earn their 90k salary by swanning off to interfere in Middle East conflict have released a statement. Wait for it; the they also took their aides also paid for by us.
They lied and claimed to be part of an official delegation visiting Israel on behalf of the British parliament, however, this turned out to be untrue.
They were denied entrance to Israel on Saturday, after an investigation reportedly revealed that the two wished to enter the country to document the activities of security forces and spread anti-Israel hatred, Israel's Population and Immigration Authority announced.
At airport security, the passengers claimed to be part of an official delegation visiting Israel on behalf of the British parliament.
However, the Population and Immigration Authority claimed this was untrue as no official in Israel had approved the arrival of the delegation.
The Labour Party is clearly STILL riddled with anti semite lefties and Islamist.

Around 24 hours after video emerged showing that Israel had lied through their back teeth about the ambulances not having headlights and/or flashing lights on you quote Israel to corroborate your thoughts. They have murdered paramedics going to assist people in trouble. There are even some uncorroborated reports that some of the dead ambulance personnel had their hands tied and had been shot execution style. Accepting Israeli "explanations" as bona fide without exhaustive research is probably not the wisest thing to do.

The 2 MPs? They had been invited by an organisation, I forget which one, and had accepted that invitation. Not very clever of them to check that they would be cleared by Israeli border control prior to leaving. I hope they will have learned from this, what should be, chastening experience. My own thoughts, based on what we have been told, is that I'm not surprised they were refused entry. They were there to speak to Arabs in the "occupied West Bank". They would have been told some horrific stories. That Israel wouldn't want those stories out in the open is no surprise.

[MadAmster]

Jeffrey Sachs on Trump's economic policy:
"Tariffs are going to lower living standards.
They're going to wreck the US economy, and they're being put on for unbelievably bizarre and mistaken reasons that are completely fallacious.
Let me explain.
The United States runs a large deficit in its trade in goods and services — what's called the current account of the United States — and that deficit is about a trillion dollars.
Trump says, 'Oh, that's because other countries are ripping off the United States.'
I can't even begin to say how absurd that line is.
[The word is childish.]
Running a current account deficit means — and it means precisely — that the United States is spending more than it's producing. That's what leads to a deficit. You spend more than you produce.
And we spend more than we produce because we have very low saving in this country. We have an enormous budget deficit.
So the government is like the national credit card — it runs on credit.
It transfers money, pays for wars, pays for Israel’s wars, pays for military bases in 80 countries around the world, pays for that more than a trillion-dollar-a-year military establishment, and hundreds of billions more of associated spending on the military-industrial complex.
And it gives tax cuts for the richest Americans.
It allows for tax evasion by the richest Americans — and I mean evasion, because it doesn't do audits, and it guts enforcement of the tax laws.
So we hemorrhage deficits and have rising public debt.
And because of all that, the spending of our country is much larger than our national income.
It’s a trillion dollars more than national income.
It is exactly the imbalance of our imports of goods and services over our exports of goods and services.
All of this is to say that what Trump calls a 'ripoff' is just the absolute irresponsibility of the political class in Washington.
It's a corrupt, plutocratic gangsterism that gives away the taxes and tax cuts to the richest people and goes on war after war — on credit.
And that leads to these large deficits that Trump then blames on other countries.
Now he's going to correct these deficits, he thinks, by raising tariffs.
And of course, it's going to do nothing of the kind.
The deficits are going to continue because they come from the profligacy of Washington.
They don't come from the fact that other countries are ripping us off.
So he'll raise the tariffs. Americans will shift their spending, say, from an imported automobile to domestic automobiles. That's true. They'll pay higher prices for those domestic automobiles. And our auto industry will export less abroad.
So yes — there will be fewer imports and fewer exports, and the balance won’t budge.
And none of it's going to change the fiscal recklessness.
Because what's Trump’s highest aspiration? It is to continue tax cuts for the richest Americans, which is going to cost another $4 trillion over the next 10 years in the budget.
Because these tax cuts are supposed to end, but he says, 'No, no, no — these are taxes for my rich donors, so they're going to continue.'
So he's not going to solve the budget crisis.
He's not going to solve the trade deficit — because that comes from the budget crisis.
But what he's going to do is lower the living standards of our country and the world.
Because trade is beneficial in living standards — it's called gains from trade.
We buy more cheaply. We sell goods that we have a comparative advantage in. And both sides gain from trade.
Of course, we overdo it, because we overspend — but that’s a completely different thing.
No one’s ripping off the United States by these numbers.
I don’t know whether it's just rhetoric or ignorance or confusion, but it's unbelievably bad economic policy.
It will come to no good.
And incidentally, you mentioned rightly that tariffs are, of course, a tax. So who’s supposed to have authority over taxes?
[Congress.]
And Congress has nothing to say in this. This is a one-person show.
What did we become in this country? Even King George wouldn't levy taxes without the British Parliament in the 18th century.
So what happened to this country? Trump just says, 'Oh, it's an emergency,' and now we have one-person rule — and one-person rule on completely fallacious premises that don’t pass the first day of study of what a trade deficit is.
I taught that for more than 20 years at Harvard University — what is a trade deficit, how does it relate to the excess of spending over production, how does it relate to the excess of investment in a country over a low saving rate?
Well, none of this seems to register.
No one asks a question.
There isn’t a day of hearings.
There isn’t any analysis.
It’s a one-person show based on economic fallacies that are going to wreck our economy, wreck the world trading system.
And I can tell you — all over the world, because I am talking with leaders all over the world, and recently in Asia — the words to describe this, you can’t say in polite company."
From https://x.com/nxt888/status/1907679118449418269

[MadAmster]

The celebration of being punished, but to a lesser degree than some others, has to be one of the most tragicomic last straws to be grabbed at by Brexiteers.

Borrowed from Dr. Mike Goldsworthy.

[SithHappens]

self explanatory

You take a great delight in assuming Farage/Trump etc say things that they actually dont. Did you even watch that video, as what you wrote has absolutely nothing to do with your insinuation. The palestine marches are riddled with those that assume like you

No you owe me an apology, why say I trash jews?

And Andy, why haven't you pulled him up on this?

[Andy_Faber]

No you owe me an apology, why say I trash jews?

And Andy, why haven't you pulled him up on this?

TTR?s rant made a number of undeserved assumptions but sorry Sith he didn?t say what you say he did. Sometimes just leaving such stuff ?on file? is a greater sanction than telling someone off, I read the post and just assumed he?d had a touch too many Sabai Sabais and he?d realise he?d gone a bit far in the morning

What do you reckon TTR? ?Maybe I overdid it a bit? would be a start