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    Peter Mandelson has just publicly retracted his criticism of Donald Trump from 2018. He said he was wrong to have called Trump a bully, reckless and a danger to the world.

    There is so much wrong with Mandelson's retraction. First of all, I don't believe Trump would care less what a failed former British Labour Minister would say about him, but more importantly Mandelson has lost any credibility he had, as it looks like he is brown-nosing to Trump with regards to the fact Mandelson has landed one of the top gravy train jobs as Ambassador to the US.

    It seems that Mandelson cares more about lining his pockets than retaining any of his political morals.

    However, the FBI are currently investigating Mandelson's former connections to China, although the White House has accepted his appointment.
    Last edited by Lullapie; 30-01-2025 at 12:03 AM.

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    So Trump is set to ignore an international, arrest, warrant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78xzlxl3vjo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Med Pie View Post
    So Trump is set to ignore an international, arrest, warrant.

    https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78xzlxl3vjo
    Sadly the USA is not a member of the ICC.

    "The US is not a state party to the Rome Statute. The US participated in the negotiations that led to the creation of the court. However, in 1998 the US was one of only seven countries - along with China, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, and Yemen - that voted against the Rome Statute."

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    Quote Originally Posted by SwalePie View Post
    Sadly the USA is not a member of the ICC.

    "The US is not a state party to the Rome Statute. The US participated in the negotiations that led to the creation of the court. However, in 1998 the US was one of only seven countries - along with China, Iraq, Israel, Libya, Qatar, and Yemen - that voted against the Rome Statute."
    Many believe that the ICC is a just a self-fulfilling entity. Seriously, what good does it do? It's another one of those 'one world' ideas that seemed a good idea in the late 1980s and early 1990s because of wars that were happening around the world, but very few of those that they charge and convict get taken into custody.

    They had a bit of success with the Yugoslavian conflict and I believe that was about it.

    More wasted taxpayer money to fund those on the gravy train.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post
    Many believe that the ICC is a just a self-fulfilling entity. Seriously, what good does it do? It's another one of those 'one world' ideas that seemed a good idea in the late 1980s and early 1990s because of wars that were happening around the world, but very few of those that they charge and convict get taken into custody.

    They had a bit of success with the Yugoslavian conflict and I believe that was about it.

    More wasted taxpayer money to fund those on the gravy train.
    Many believe in a lot of completely ridiculous things that are demonstrably untrue.

    https://www.icc-cpi.int/cases

    You reckon these guys should be wandering around doing what they do without ever coming to trial?

    They hear cases on war crimes, crimes against humanity and genocide. I for one don't see that as a waste of taxpayer money.

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    Yet again, Trump shows what a warped and classless piece of sh!t he is. Seconds after he offers his 'sincere' condolences to the victims of the plane crash, he decides to score political points by pinning the blame on the Democrats. He is an utterly vile human being.

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    I don't agree with a Presidential pardon because I believe only the Judiciary should be contemplating any pardons after due process.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lullapie View Post

    The US is Canada's largest trading partner and so buys many Canadian goods. Most of those goods enter the US without any barriers. Goods sold by the US to Canada attract large tariffs.
    I thought they had NAFTA to reduce / eliminate tariffs between Canada, USA and Mexico, and I thought Trump then renegotiated NAFTA in his first term for the Maga win.

    Sounds like either you're peddling 'alternative facts' yet again, or the master of deal making got his pants pulled down in the renegotiations if Canada can sell to the US tariff free while the US has to pay to sell in Canada.

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    Quote Originally Posted by drillerpie View Post
    I thought they had NAFTA to reduce / eliminate tariffs between Canada, USA and Mexico, and I thought Trump then renegotiated NAFTA in his first term for the Maga win.

    Sounds like either you're peddling 'alternative facts' yet again, or the master of deal making got his pants pulled down in the renegotiations if Canada can sell to the US tariff free while the US has to pay to sell in Canada.
    Haha.

    I'm getting strong 'alternative facts' here.

    Trump mentioned renegotiating the NAFTA in his last term but as with most things Trump it was hot air to appeal to the lowest common denominator of people that get their news in the form of talking heads who have managed to make a successful career in monetising outright lies and outrage.

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    Much of this thread is a masterclass in the Trump/Bannon strategy of 'flooding the zone with shi t'

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