Election Year or Fear!

[ramAnag]

Decision made. I shall no longer read or reply to any posts by TTR.

His posts are, IMO, mainly ridiculous right wing rubbish. In this particular case, even when presented, verbatim, with what he posted, he claims he didn't.

He even replies to that quote with another gibberish rant that doesn't address the situation.

I'm simply not going to waste any more of my time on him and his, IMO, stupidity. He wrote what he wrote. It means what it means. There was a chance that he meant something else, I said exactly that. The response? It's bla bla who organises bla bla bla...

The end!

Seconded. It seems the best/only way forward now. Here’s a tip for Tricky…and for AF too perhaps. When the context is in a written form and everything is there for everyone to see in black and white there’s really no point in denial…just makes you look daft.

In the meantime, life’s too short, and I shall confine my exchanges on here to those who don’t deal in denial and deflection and are prepared to put their hand up when in the wrong.

[swaledale]

Decision made. I shall no longer read or reply to any posts by TTR.

His posts are, IMO, mainly ridiculous right wing rubbish. In this particular case, even when presented, verbatim, with what he posted, he claims he didn't.

He even replies to that quote with another gibberish rant that doesn't address the situation.

I'm simply not going to waste any more of my time on him and his, IMO, stupidity. He wrote what he wrote. It means what it means. There was a chance that he meant something else, I said exactly that. The response? It's bla bla who organises bla bla bla...

The end!

A decision I made a long time ago, he is impervious to reality or even logical thinking, so far down the rabbit hole its laughable. I've had him on ignore for over 12 months, and every time I choose to view a post or see one quoted by one of you guys, I regret not ignoring it.

I mean there is a case for not ignoring the twaddle put out by these ****s, but that applies to the outside world, on this Forum ignore is the only way of staying sane. You can't argue with stupid.

[SithHappens]

Decision made. I shall no longer read or reply to any posts by TTR.

His posts are, IMO, mainly ridiculous right wing rubbish. In this particular case, even when presented, verbatim, with what he posted, he claims he didn't.

He even replies to that quote with another gibberish rant that doesn't address the situation.

I'm simply not going to waste any more of my time on him and his, IMO, stupidity. He wrote what he wrote. It means what it means. There was a chance that he meant something else, I said exactly that. The response? It's bla bla who organises bla bla bla...

The end!

Seconded. It seems the best/only way forward now. Here’s a tip for Tricky…and for AF too perhaps. When the context is in a written form and everything is there for everyone to see in black and white there’s really no point in denial…just makes you look daft.

In the meantime, life’s too short, and I shall confine my exchanges on here to those who don’t deal in denial and deflection and are prepared to put their hand up when in the wrong.

Definitely a bizarre situation.

I tend to think something else was meant, not sure what mind. Did think Andy's stance was a weird one. But it is what it is.

I do usually ignore TTR rants, and probably should have done once again.

Anyway, what's done is done.

[swaledale]

Definitely a bizarre situation.

I tend to think something else was meant, not sure what mind. Did think Andy's stance was a weird one. But it is what it is.

I do usually ignore TTR rants, and probably should have done once again.

Anyway, what's done is done.

Thee is no point in debating with a mass debater!!

[MadAmster]

Only local elections coming up...

Closing the thread SHOULD remove the opportunity to spout utter rubbish although the same crap appearing on a Derby County related post shouldn't be discounted.

Someone posts "Derby 3 points closer to safety". Response is "same as the number of mosques opened in England over the past 4 months". Sounds daft at first thought, but I wouldn't put it past him.

I'm just not willing to clash heads with someone who refuses to understand what he actually posted when it's quoted verbatim back at him. It's a complete and utetr waste of my time and energy and I am no longer willing to play that game.

[Geoff Parkstone]

So three of this small band of brothers have chosen not to engage in discussion with the only person with a consistently conflicting view. I'm impartial so its for others to judge how grown up that is, but I wonder if you've considered that such actions now allow TTR to have free reign to post whatever he wants unchallenged/un-responded too apart from by relative newcomers, the less-bothered and the in-it-for-the joshers. I do wonder how long your resolve will last - and maybe in view of the lack of interaction expected, the thread should be closed?

It's not unlike the three monkeys - see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil. Failure to engage in my view does not give anyone the moral high ground. It's all just a bit childidh

[ramAnag]

It's not unlike the three monkeys - see no evil, hear no evil and speak no evil. Failure to engage in my view does not give anyone the moral high ground. It's all just a bit childidh

Hang on. Last week you had a little pop at me for engaging, i.e. you questioned my support for the wronged party…Sith.
Now I’ve taken that on board and followed MA’s example by deciding to ignore the nonsensical nastinesss posted by TTR, you’re having a go at me for NOT engaging! Make your mind up.

As for the three wise monkeys. Tricky and AF are, in my opinion, the two classic examples of that. We’ve all seen and heard what was written but two of the three wise monkeys are still going ‘no, no, no…I/he didn’t say that’. Well I’m sorry but he did and even you, one notes, haven’t ever challenged that.

Frankly there’s no point at all in debating with people who are incapable of recognising facts and truth and that appears to be where we’ve got to.

As for closing the thread. What’s the point? It’s a thread that has been running for a while. It’s largely kept the politics in one place and has attracted a huge amount of attention. We’re just coming up to another set of elections so it would seem a foolish and inappropriate time to close something which will, in all probability, just be started up again in a slightly different form.

As regards being ‘childish’ in failing to engage further. It seems strange for you of all people to say that and I have to say I’m reminded of a class full of children where the class fool gets caught out behaving stupidly while his best mate makes hopelessly inane excuses much to the amusement/bewilderment/exasperation of the rest.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Hang on. Last week you had a little pop at me for engaging, i.e. you questioned my support for the wronged party…Sith.
Now I’ve taken that on board and followed MA’s example by deciding to ignore the nonsensical nastinesss posted by TTR, you’re having a go at me for NOT engaging! Make your mind up.

As for the three wise monkeys. Tricky and AF are, in my opinion, the two classic examples of that. We’ve all seen and heard what was written but two of the three wise monkeys are still going ‘no, no, no…I/he didn’t say that’. Well I’m sorry but he diid and even you, one notes, haven’t challenged that.

Frankly there’s no point at all in debating with people who are incapable of recognising facts and truth and that appears to be where we’ve got to.

As for closing the thread. What’s the point? It’s a thread that has been running for a while. It’s largely kept the politics in one place and has attracted a huge amount of attention. We’re just coming up to another set of elections so it would seem a foolish and inappropriate time to close something which will, in all probability, start up again in a slightly different form.

As regards being ‘childish’ in failing to engage further. It seems strange for you of all people to say that and I have to say I’m reminded of a class full of children where the class fool gets caught out behaving stupidly while his best mate makes hopelessly inane excuses much to the amusement/bewilderment/exasperation of the majority.

Actually you weren't one of the monkeys - I must have missed you deciding to ignore tricky along with Swale MA and Sith.

Tricky's views do need challenging at a level, albeit I'm happy to give him room on stage to express them. To pretend they don't exist merely serves to give them more credibility (not just here but nationally). Sometimes I find that challenge to not be best achieved by personal insults and "it must be wrong it's right wing" comments. Neither is constructive.

As to my suggesting you drop the matter the other day, there is no inconsistency. That was suggesting that you stop stirring the pot re the personal spat between TTR and Sith. Please challenge and debate the issues of the day fully but when two people get embroiled in a personal spat, leave it to them to sort out rather than cheer from the sidelines

[ramAnag]

Actually you weren't one of the monkeys - I must have missed you deciding to ignore tricky along with Swale MA and Sith.

Tricky's views do need challenging at a level, albeit I'm happy to give him room on stage to express them. To pretend they don't exist merely serves to give them more credibility (not just here but nationally). Sometimes I find that challenge to not be best achieved by personal insults and "it must be wrong it's right wing" comments. Neither is constructive.

As to my suggesting you drop the matter the other day, there is no inconsistency. That was suggesting that you stop stirring the pot re the personal spat between TTR and Sith. Please challenge and debate the issues of the day fully but when two people get embroiled in a personal spat, leave it to them to sort out rather than cheer from the sidelines

Lol! For you, of all people to accuse me of ‘stirring the pot’ and cheering from the sidelines really is laughable.

I know you seem to be having trouble at the moment keeping up with who said what, but my point is that, not only was it entirely incorrect to accuse Sith of anti Semitism but it is a sign of the times on here and elsewhere.

It’s a worrying trend, especially when it appears to be backed by the moderator..say it often enough and loudly enough and it becomes fact. Sith wants to ‘trash Jews’, I am anti British, anti Christian and pro Muslim. Swale is a raving leftie etc. All bollux of course but it’s become a tactic of certain people, from Trump and Farage to one or two on this infinitely less significant little forum.

There is a risk that dishonest belittlement and disregard for the facts is becoming an accepted strategy and that, imo, isn’t acceptable so, if it’s okay with you - and even if it isn’t - I’ll continue to defend those who are wronged and choose to avoid responding further to those incapable of issuing apology or acknowledging the truth.

[swaledale]

Actually you weren't one of the monkeys - I must have missed you deciding to ignore tricky along with Swale MA and Sith.

Tricky's views do need challenging at a level, albeit I'm happy to give him room on stage to express them. To pretend they don't exist merely serves to give them more credibility (not just here but nationally). Sometimes I find that challenge to not be best achieved by personal insults and "it must be wrong it's right wing" comments. Neither is constructive.

As to my suggesting you drop the matter the other day, there is no inconsistency. That was suggesting that you stop stirring the pot re the personal spat between TTR and Sith. Please challenge and debate the issues of the day fully but when two people get embroiled in a personal spat, leave it to them to sort out rather than cheer from the sidelines

I would agree IN THE REAL WORLD, then those opinions and views need to be challenged or at the very least an alternative view put forward. (Although I read commentary today which pointed out that despite Trump's reverse ferrets, lies and false statements, the right wing media and commentator's in the US largely ignore the contradictions, lies etc. and still pretend he is doing well!!).

BUT on this forum, its pintless debating with the dim red one, you can completely destroy an argument he puts forward, or rather one he has copied from some dubious internet source and he'll still argue black is white! So long ago realised it was pointless, he lives in an alternative universe. Whilst I'm happy to engage and debate with you, AF or anybody else, based on I might disagree or dislike a point of view, but in the main I get a reasonable response which on occasion does make me change a POV, its absolutely pointless doing that with him.

I for one have a life and don't really need pointless debates with someone who is clearly not capable of rational debate or argument.