Here's something to ponder on... Trump and Musk, between them have fathered 17 children by 6 different women yet Trump and Musk go on about family values. Yeah, right.
Here's something to ponder on... Trump and Musk, between them have fathered 17 children by 6 different women yet Trump and Musk go on about family values. Yeah, right.
No idea if they're genuine or not but it appears that some Tweets from 2009 have appeared, apparently showing Wes Streeting showing a desire to push certain people under a train...
If true, he's another who'll probably be gone.
I’m no expert, but how is it that all these Tweets and WhatsApp messages suddenly seem so recoverable? Didn’t Johnson ‘lose’ something like 5000 over Covid alone? Even Rebecca Vardy got away with ‘dropping’ her phone in the North Sea and she generally seems as dim as a TocH lamp.
It means exactly what it says in this context…electronically retrievable.
I’m not offering any defence of those currently under scrutiny. If they’re stupid enough to make such ill judged comments in such circumstances they deserve to be sacked. They’re a disgrace.
Just puzzled that other messages apparently cannot be retrieved/recovered especially if what you say is correct as I believe it to be.
Mark Rutte, when he was Dutch PM, used an old Nokia 301 for communication. Max 20 texts so he was continually deleting. He didn't use whatsapp. He had a smart phone to keep up with the news but didn't use it for texts and didn't have whatsapp. Whenever he looked like being pushed into a corner, the texts had long gone and, whatever the subject matter was, he had no active memory of what had been said.
I think we all know/strongly believe that both of those were the guilty covering their tracks. Allegedly
On a more general point, isn?t it human nature (not an especially attractive one I?ll admit) for groups to form and demean others verbally, exaggerating any actions they might actually take? Anyone not guilty of such a crime, please raise their hand now.
I’m sure it probably is, AF. Although I can honestly say that investigation of my WhatsApp history will not find any racist or ageist comments. I’m also inclined to avoid saying things about people that I wouldn’t be prepared to say to their face.
Beyond that, people in the public eye should have more sense than to make such comments. Even Gordon Brown - as decent a politician as you’ll find - was caught our referring to a woman as a ‘bigot’ (which was quite possibly true imo) and that went a long way to losing the 2010 election. They just don’t seem to learn.
Last edited by ramAnag; 11-02-2025 at 12:15 PM.