O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Elite_Pie]

GB News only became a 'thing', because the main stream news became so biased towards the left, in TV terms anyway.

It is amazing that people happy to take in the news from their side of the political fence, become very upset when a new news outlet tries to put the other side of the story.

That entirely depends on where you site your personal political fence.

You have erected yours bang on the line where GB News is perfectly unbiased, balanced and rational in it's presentation. When your opinion is that GB News is the benchmark for fairness, it's hardly surprising that you think mainstream news on TV is "so biased towards the left".

[OchPie]

GB News only became a 'thing', because the main stream news became so biased towards the left, in TV terms anyway.

The news in the UK is biased towards the establishment, not the left. That's why Tufton St get people on so often.

GBeebies is anti-establishment. It just so happens that currently the loudest voices against the establishment - real or imagined - are on the right (and the hard right at that), but they draft on the occasional anti-establishment lefty sacrificial lamb.

[the_anticlough]

GBeebies is anti-establishment.

How is it? I wouldn't watch, but is it railing against the wealth and power of corporations, big business, finance? Inherited wealth and power? The aristocracy, monarchy? Private education and its advantages and privileges?
Genuine question

[Magpies1959]

Whatever your political bias, I think we are heading for a very different and scary future.
Luckily I am old enough to have lived through the good times. It is the kids I feel sorry for, who are being indoctrinated at school, to believe the real problems are saving the effing planet and deciding which gender you are

[SwalePie]

Whatever your political bias, I think we are heading for a very different and scary future.
Luckily I am old enough to have lived through the good times. It is the kids I feel sorry for, who are being indoctrinated at school, to believe the real problems are saving the effing planet and deciding which gender you are

You don't think 'saving the effing planet' is a real problem?

[upthemaggies]

You don't think 'saving the effing planet' is a real problem?

Saving it from what and from who?

In football terms, the "Climate change" movement would be like some super rich owner in the wings about to buy Notts out of another inevitable slump whilst cryptically posting about a "#Nottsprogress deal until enough people are on board with it, then it turns out that the whole #Nottsprogress endgame is moving the club MK Dons style 50 odd miles away to "save it from certain extinction" and "secure it's future in a better environment", by which time half the fan base are so hooked by the new owners spiel that anybody against it is a #Nottsprogress denier. "You don't believe in Notts progressing???? You want Notts to go backwards???? Ha ha ha, you call yourself a supporter!!! what an idiot."

[SwalePie]

Saving it from what and from who?

In football terms, the "Climate change" movement would be like some super rich owner in the wings about to buy Notts out of another inevitable slump whilst cryptically posting about a "#Nottsprogress deal until enough people are on board with it, then it turns out that the whole #Nottsprogress endgame is moving the club MK Dons style 50 odd miles away to "save it from certain extinction" and "secure it's future in a better environment", by which time half the fan base are so hooked by the new owners spiel that anybody against it is a #Nottsprogress denier. "You don't believe in Notts progressing???? You want Notts to go backwards???? Ha ha ha, you call yourself a supporter!!! what an idiot."

You think climate change is a movement?

[upthemaggies]

You think climate change is a movement?

This reply just sums up my point. Use a slogan nobody can disagree with to advance your cause, then mock anybody who disagrees with you on the premise that they are objecting to or denying your slogan rather than what's behind it.

The climate has always changed and always will do. That's got nothing to do with people. If it did then there's a very simple solution and there's seemingly enough people who believe it to be the case to make the ultimate sacrifice.

[Jampie]

Saving it from what and from who?

In football terms, the "Climate change" movement would be like some super rich owner in the wings about to buy Notts out of another inevitable slump whilst cryptically posting about a "#Nottsprogress deal until enough people are on board with it, then it turns out that the whole #Nottsprogress endgame is moving the club MK Dons style 50 odd miles away to "save it from certain extinction" and "secure it's future in a better environment", by which time half the fan base are so hooked by the new owners spiel that anybody against it is a #Nottsprogress denier. "You don't believe in Notts progressing???? You want Notts to go backwards???? Ha ha ha, you call yourself a supporter!!! what an idiot."

I can't even begin to follow the analogy you're trying to draw here?

[the_anticlough]

Whatever your political bias, I think we are heading for a very different and scary future.
Luckily I am old enough to have lived through the good times. It is the kids I feel sorry for, who are being indoctrinated at school, to believe the real problems are saving the effing planet and deciding which gender you are

This is wrong on so many levels. But let's start with the fact that kids don't even go to school* because the tories haven't even been able to provide buildings safe enough to go to.

(*not including private schools)