O/T Tommy Robinson Speaks About Manchester Terror Attack

[AltyPie]

AltyPie

3 points

1. I’m a bit of an infrequent visitor to this message board. Hadn’t looked at it for a couple of days. So sorry if I have hurt your ego by not immediately jumping in to address your posts. You obviously had a lot to get off your chest.

2. I have no strong opinions on Mehdi Hasan. I have merely posted an article that he’s penned because I thought it raised some interesting points, which ran counter to some of the views on this message board. So it was worthy of discussion on this thread. Some agreed with Hasan’s article and some haven’t. This is a message/discussion board after all.

3. Some on this board hero worship Tommy Robinson. I find him and his politics and methods distasteful but if people want to idolise him and claim that there’s a lefty/state conspiracy against him, then fine - that’s their business. His criminal convictions are a matter of record and judging by his record he’s a bit of a thug and a fraud.

It’s because you’ve called me an “outright hypocrite” and levelled a few other insults and accusations at me, when you know nothing about me that I feel you are just not worth the effort of a substantive response. Name calling and insults – very mature.

Hello Neville,

Thankyou for your reply. With respect, what is your opinion on what Mehdi Hasan had to say?
Specifically I am asking you to comment on these words he spoke:
"non-Muslims live their lives as animals".

[Ellis_D]

AltyPie

2. I have no strong opinions on Mehdi Hasan. I have merely posted an article that he’s penned because I thought it raised some interesting points, which ran counter to some of the views on this message board. So it was worthy of discussion on this thread. Some agreed with Hasan’s article and some haven’t. This is a message/discussion board after all.

Right, but you are posting the opinion of someone who is supposedly speaking out against 'Islamaphobia' but who constantly refers to non-Muslims as 'kaffars' - a derogatory word for non-Muslims, who calls us all animals and who is happy to repeat the lines in the Qur'an that non-Muslims have no intelligence . You take umbrage with the likes of myself and Tommy Robinson for our criticism of Islam, but have no problem referencing a man like Mehdi Hasan. Neither Tommy Robinson or I have EVER spoken about all Muslims as animals, but yet you and your ilk refer to us racists, Nazis and extremists. This is the reason the country is in the state it's in. In your desperation to be PC, to defend all things Islam, you have got things so warped and twisted you don't even realise how you come across.

[a123]

Feck me this site needs to sort itself out.

It's full of left wing nut jobs and right wing tossers, a lot of who don't even support the Millers so feck off on to your own clubs site's and spout your bile and hatred on there.

[AltyPie]

Muslims suffer by far the most deaths from Jihadist attacks.
There has been yet another bomb in Kabul killing 90 mostly Muslims:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40109568

There have been at least 7 Jihadi attacks in Afghanistan alone since Aug 2015, which have killed 330.

My only reason for being interested in this topic is because, like a lot of people, I would like to reduce or put an end to fatal Jihadi attacks, in the UK as a priority. If that makes me a "right wing tosser" then so be it.

IMO, it's Islamophobic to stifle debate on this issue because Muslims suffer by far the most fatalities from it.

[Ellis_D]

Muslims suffer by far the most deaths from Jihadist attacks.
There has been yet another bomb in Kabul killing 90 mostly Muslims:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-40109568

There have been at least 7 Jihadi attacks in Afghanistan alone since Aug 2015, which have killed 330.

My only reason for being interested in this topic is because, like a lot of people, I would like to reduce or put an end to fatal Jihadi attacks, in the UK as a priority. If that makes me a "right wing tosser" then so be it.

IMO, it's Islamophobic to stifle debate on this issue because Muslims suffer by far the most fatalities from it.

And not to forget, that Muslims are the first victims of Islam. Anyone who can do their own reading, their own research outside of mainstream education or the education they receive within 'their' religion will be able to see for themselves, that ALL religion is nonsense. So the first victims of Islam, are the children who are brainwashed by their elders into thinking it is the truth. As with all religions.

This then leads to things such as Islamic terrorism, different sects of Muslims believing they are correct and killing each other over it (I know several leftists will be desperate to jump in here and mention Protestants and Catholics, despite the fact they aren't at war in numerous countries), and things such as forced marriages of young girls, those young girls being raped by their much, much older husbands, and female genital mutilation. That is just some of the things Muslims have to put up with, inflicted upon them by other Muslims. And some people think it's Islamophobia to speak out against such things. Banging. Your head. Against. A brick. Wall.

[millertop]

Four hours of mayhem at Manchester airport (yesterday) because some idiot left an unattended bag, they should spend a night in the cells

[rolymiller]

Eeee our Tommy....here's another fan of that champion of people...


Headline: I don’t know who I hate more Tommy Robinson or Good Morning Britain for giving the **** a mouthpiece

Just imagine its the day after the Manchester attack you buttered your toast, made your morning brew, then tuned in for your daily dose of Britain’s favourite voicemail enthusiast and big toe impersonator, Piers Morgan, to see what he was getting faux outraged about this morning.

Then imagine that sat on the sofa next to him was extremist hate preacher Anjem Choudary, who’d been Tweeting the night before that girls often go to gigs in unsuitable clothing (in this hypothetical situation). You’d be more ****ing outraged than Theresa May having to make eye contact with a member of the public.

People would be up in arms. The complaints line would ****ing melt like Diane Abbott in a maths quiz. ****ing pitch fork sales would go through the roof and The Daily Mail would explode in a fit of ‘moral’ outrage like a vegan who’s just found out Haribos are cow based.

So why is it when Muslims are mown down by some alcoholic gob****e, who probably wasted his **** excuse for a life reading the Facebook pages of Britain First and The EDL, do we have an extremist, right wing, fanatical hyper **** on breakfast television, spreading his bile filled, hate ridden bull**** as if he’s delivering a ****ing pottery segment? As if this is the most normal thing in the world?


I don’t care if that pound land Farage, Piers, did grill him. I wouldn’t have cared if he punched the **** in his divisive, hate inciting smug ****ing face.

No extremists should have a platform, Islamist or Far Right, especially in front of millions of viewers. We need to starve the flames of hatred from oxygen and cut out this cancer from our society. If we don’t, how will this madness ever end?

Author Malcolm Tucker
Posted on 20th June 2017

Well its a hear, hear from me on that one! Spokesperson for every right thinking person my ar se.

Hang on. I'm wrong he is a spokesperson for every EXTREME RIGHT thinking person politically speaking

Also shows the stuff we see on telly aint all left wing biased like some doll's heerds think on here.

[rolymiller]

whoops...and some more....people not chuffed with this likeable chappie...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7798406.html

[Ellis_D]

whoops...and some more....people not chuffed with this likeable chappie...

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk...-a7798406.html

In the segment of the video on this article (I have yet to watch it in full, I recorded it and will watch it later), it is Piers Morgan who comes across as a fascist. He is refusing to listen to Tommy's opinion, forcibly suppressing his views by shouting over him and using his usual bullying interview technique. If we want to talk about someone inciting hate, THAT poor excuse for a man, Morgan, should NEVER be allowed on TV. He incited hatred against British soldiers with his lies in The Mirror and he should have been jailed for it.

Also, Tommy Robinson was quoting from Sir William Gladstone, it wasn't even something he had said himself. And yet again, Piers Morgan is clearly someone who doesn't even know what he is talking about. He wants to have a debate about Islam and the obvious link to Islamic extremism, yet he hasn't even read the Qur'an. How does he feel himself qualified to even have the discussion? If he actually bothered to read it, it might open his eyes a little.

[Ellis_D]

Eeee our Tommy....here's another fan of that champion of people...


Headline: I don’t know who I hate more Tommy Robinson or Good Morning Britain for giving the **** a mouthpiece

Just imagine its the day after the Manchester attack you buttered your toast, made your morning brew, then tuned in for your daily dose of Britain’s favourite voicemail enthusiast and big toe impersonator, Piers Morgan, to see what he was getting faux outraged about this morning.

Then imagine that sat on the sofa next to him was extremist hate preacher Anjem Choudary, who’d been Tweeting the night before that girls often go to gigs in unsuitable clothing (in this hypothetical situation). You’d be more ****ing outraged than Theresa May having to make eye contact with a member of the public.

People would be up in arms. The complaints line would ****ing melt like Diane Abbott in a maths quiz. ****ing pitch fork sales would go through the roof and The Daily Mail would explode in a fit of ‘moral’ outrage like a vegan who’s just found out Haribos are cow based.

So why is it when Muslims are mown down by some alcoholic gob****e, who probably wasted his **** excuse for a life reading the Facebook pages of Britain First and The EDL, do we have an extremist, right wing, fanatical hyper **** on breakfast television, spreading his bile filled, hate ridden bull**** as if he’s delivering a ****ing pottery segment? As if this is the most normal thing in the world?


I don’t care if that pound land Farage, Piers, did grill him. I wouldn’t have cared if he punched the **** in his divisive, hate inciting smug ****ing face.

No extremists should have a platform, Islamist or Far Right, especially in front of millions of viewers. We need to starve the flames of hatred from oxygen and cut out this cancer from our society. If we don’t, how will this madness ever end?

Author Malcolm Tucker
Posted on 20th June 2017

Well its a hear, hear from me on that one! Spokesperson for every right thinking person my ar se.

Hang on. I'm wrong he is a spokesperson for every EXTREME RIGHT thinking person politically speaking

Also shows the stuff we see on telly aint all left wing biased like some doll's heerds think on here.

The article loses all credibility as soon as it compares Tommy Robinson to Anjem Choudary. Choudary has called for the murder of British soldiers and policemen, being involved with several proscribed organisations and constantly preached hate, including voicing his support for ISIS, a terrorist organisation responsible for the murders and rapes of thousands of people. He is now in jail for that support.

Tommy Robinson has NEVER called for the murder of ANYONE. Ever. He has NEVER asked people to attack Muslims, or Jews (unlike Choudary). He does not support - and never has - ANY proscribed organisations or terrorist groups. And despite the lies that of the far left that he is a Nazi, far right, extremist, etc, etc, he has NEVER been charged or even arrested for, ANY hate crime.

So how can you, with any kind of moral conscience, post an article that compares the two as though they are on a par with each other?

And he rants about hatred, he spews far more of that in that article alone than Tommy ever has.

I am STILL waiting for someone to show me all these things that Tommy has said that are extreme, fascist or racist, or incite hatred............