⚽ Match Thread vs. Mansfield Town FC 14.10.23 [EFL L2]

[ncfcog]

Match report … https://www.ncs-news.co.uk/read/repo...n-h-league-two

[upthemaggies]

The league record between the two clubs is now tied at 15 wins each, but Stags have scored 9 goals more.

Pld:43 W:15 D:13 L:15 F:55 A:64 GD:-9 pts:58

Twenty years ago we were on 13 wins, Stags on just 6, so the pendulum has really swung towards them in the last two decades despite them averaging 86th in the pyramid since 2003/04 as opposed to our 79th.

[Davy500]

I do not think mansfield will finish top, i think Stockport and Wrexham will be top 2, its the 3rd place up for grabs in my opinion
I Think Mansfield were very fortunate they played Stockport when they did, Stockport had a shaky start but have since won 7 on the bounce, no way Mansfield would beat them now in my opinion
We do not know how stags will play against teams in the bottom half, there own supporters say they like teams that are near the top that attack them, i still think they will lose soon to a team near the bottom - and i will laugh my head of when they do
Mansfield have now been in L2 for 7 or 8 years and have still not got to league 1, this is our first season back at this level- i predict a top 7 finish for us , as top 3 although possible maybe is a step to far ??
I stand by the fact we will get to league 1 in a quicker time than Mansfield , and ultimately in the meduim term will be in a higher division than them

[upthemaggies]

I do not think mansfield will finish top, i think Stockport and Wrexham will be top 2, its the 3rd place up for grabs in my opinion
I Think Mansfield were very fortunate they played Stockport when they did, Stockport had a shaky start but have since won 7 on the bounce, no way Mansfield would beat them now in my opinion
We do not know how stags will play against teams in the bottom half, there own supporters say they like teams that are near the top that attack them, i still think they will lose soon to a team near the bottom - and i will laugh my head of when they do
Mansfield have now been in L2 for 7 or 8 years and have still not got to league 1, this is our first season back at this level- i predict a top 7 finish for us , as top 3 although possible maybe is a step to far ??
I stand by the fact we will get to league 1 in a quicker time than Mansfield , and ultimately in the meduim term will be in a higher division than them

There's more pressure on Mansfield than most - if not all clubs - to go up this season. That may work against them as we go into the business end of the season.

Longer term, other than Bradford City, Wrexham and maybe Stockport, the pressure will be on Notts. Certainly if we maintain anything close to the gates we've been getting at this level since Hardy took over. There's no excuse to be hanging around in L2 season after season when you're averaging top 3 crowds and upwards of 3k more than two thirds of the division.

[BJPIE]

It's impossible to gloss over our shortcomings defensively. They have been there even through last season despite some refusing to see it.
However, LW is not going to change how we play and we cannot change the personnel currently.
Radar must have the stats, but do The Bros have the desire to address this in January?
None of our defenders could be classed as ball players so defensive qualities need to be a priority, but none of them are particularly strong in reading the game or making challenges.
There are hundreds of players who could play the sideways or backward pass that we do. Even at 61 I'm sure I could make the majority of pass completions Notts defenders do.
None of the defenders play any incisive balls that change the game. Therefore replacing all of them with defenders who "relish" defending is paramount. It is a specific quality that none of our defenders have.
We still may not have any decisive balls but we wouldn't collapse like a deck of cards

[Davy500]

It's impossible to gloss over our shortcomings defensively. They have been there even through last season despite some refusing to see it.
However, LW is not going to change how we play and we cannot change the personnel currently.
Radar must have the stats, but do The Bros have the desire to address this in January?
None of our defenders could be classed as ball players so defensive qualities need to be a priority, but none of them are particularly strong in reading the game or making challenges.
There are hundreds of players who could play the sideways or backward pass that we do. Even at 61 I'm sure I could make the majority of pass completions Notts defenders do.
None of the defenders play any incisive balls that change the game. Therefore replacing all of them with defenders who "relish" defending is paramount. It is a specific quality that none of our defenders have.
We still may not have any decisive balls but we wouldn't collapse like a deck of cards

Intersting question about the bro,s desire to adress this in January- it may depend on our league position at the time
What we do know about the bro,s from our NL yaers is that they seem to have a long term plan, of bringing in the necessary players steadily, they dont seem the type to splash the cash out desperately-
From there point of view based on previous evidense- ithey might bring in a player - and see how we do, and gradually improve yaer on yaer, its worked for them already getting out of the NL, and i think it will work for them again getting out of L2 but might take a couple of years, unless we get the rub of the green and go up - we will see-but whatever happens i gradually see us getting better and better each year

[countygump]

Intersting question about the bro,s desire to adress this in January- it may depend on our league position at the time
What we do know about the bro,s from our NL yaers is that they seem to have a long term plan, of bringing in the necessary players steadily, they dont seem the type to splash the cash out desperately-
From there point of view based on previous evidense- ithey might bring in a player - and see how we do, and gradually improve yaer on yaer, its worked for them already getting out of the NL, and i think it will work for them again getting out of L2 but might take a couple of years, unless we get the rub of the green and go up - we will see-but whatever happens i gradually see us getting better and better each year

IF, what I'm led to believe is true, the Scots lad is as good as done for being here in Jan. Do we need more though?

[BanjoPie]

IF, what I'm led to believe is true, the Scots lad is as good as done for being here in Jan. Do we need more though?

Sorry Gump, who is the Scots lad?

[Iremongersrighthand]

Effectively, we only play with 3 defenders, against a team as capable as Mansfield, we always run the risk of being hammered. We probably need to revert to a back 4. Brindley, Cameron, Baldwin and Chicks for example. Bostock and Palmer in midfield, Jones, McGoldrick, Crowley behind Langstaff.

[OchPie]

I don't think we could have played with 4 at the back with the starting XI yesterday - so do you start with Tipton or Macari instead, and who do you drop?

There might have been more of an argument had Chicks been in the matchday squad.