Originally Posted by Lullapie
What? The people you meet always agree with you and tell you what you want to hear?
Do you know how pathetic you sound?
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What? The people you meet always agree with you and tell you what you want to hear?
Do you know how pathetic you sound?
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I never said that, but I do go outdoors and meet people. I said Trump was given a Mandate by the people of the US. I said most of the people I spoke to, were extremely excited about the future and also confident. I also said before that most of the people I spoke to were very negative about the previous four years.
I did meet only one person who was openly anti-Trump who I spoke to. I was in the US and with Americans for five weeks. Please share with me the last time your were there.
That person, asked me if New Zealand was near the Ukraine and also told me that the world had missed out on possibly a great leader because Kamala Harris hadn't won the election.
What is pathetic about that? I'm at a loss. What were you doing in that time, playing online gambling in your underwear?
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I don't need to explain, you've done it for me perfectly!
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It is not about popularity. It is about whether, on this specific issue, the majority of people can be persuaded that the nature and timing of the comments are perfectly fine and not an affront to common decency, irrespective of any overriding policy aims.
If they are so persuaded, or they simply can't separate this issue from the anti-woke culture war, then that suggests there has been some level of psychological 'capture' of the electorate, in a way we see with Putin and Kim.
What that means for geopolitics long term is anybody's guess.
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When asked if he was going to visit the crash site, he asked if they thought he was going to go swimming.
That is not the kind of frivolous comment that anyone should be making. It might be a small comment but it is things like this that reveal what he is really like.
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Why do you think I should do research about New Zealand dairy farmers in relation to a discussion about trade between the US and Canada? Seriously, can you explain that to me in simple terms?
You stated as fact that Canada can import most of their goods to the US tariff free, while the US has to pay large tariffs to export to Canada. I think that's wrong, but if it's right, I would argue that it means Trump did a terrible job of his much publicised renegotiation of US - Canada trade in his first term.
I'm happy to read any articles you think are useful but obviously articles about New Zealand are not useful at all here.
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You're sounding very narrow minded. It wasn't just NZ Dairy Farmers, but pushing your crazy rhetoric that you and others do, you are so one-eyed, it's unbelievable.
I was counteracting the lie that Trump is hellbent on punishing other countries with tariffs, when in fact, it is the other countries who have tariffs against the US (as well as many other countries in the world).
I gave an example, something of which you and a few other of your ilk are unprepared or unable to do. The example was how Canada had gone against an international agreement, which they had signed, and were now being pushed through the international trade 'courts' to force them to stick to the agreement they had signed.
The countries involved were the US, Canada, Australia and New Zealand. The US! The country's President who you are berating for putting tariffs on other countries.
You sound like you are living in a very secluded world. Unfortunately, the World hasn't been like that for years. Countries have to 'fight' for their position on the world economic front by any means that they have at their disposal.
As I said, Canada has been doing this for some time and the US are well within their rights to take any action necessary to make Canada conform. There will be only one winner, I guarantee you that.
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Trump can think what he likes, and investigate what he likes, he's the boss! What someone should have whispered in his ear is "Let's look at it in private, there is no need to say that now!" And there was no reason to raise those points other than to do what he always does, be the big man!
Watching the US at the moment is like reading the introduction to some dystopian novel.
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Interestingly, lots of Americans would look at the UK/Europe and think the exact same thing. I guess you have to pick your poison.
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It is always, me, me, me with Trump.
I am sure there are plenty whispering in his ear, but I can?t imagine him listening to anyone.
As I said, he may have been right in some of what he said, but it was certainly not the time to bring it up, nor the right use of inflammatory language. Whatever we think about the recent PMs or party leaders here I think they all would have been far more measured and compassionate in what they said.
I know that it has been said on here that he doesn?t carry out what he has said, but the damage has been done as there are many who will hang on his every word and that is how misinformation spreads.
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