Election Year or Fear!

[Andy_Faber]

Don't let the "man" anywhere near power.

Don?t you think he is ?near? power already? I?m sure the blue and red Tories (your phrase)are both desperate to remain in or return to power in four years so will modify their approach (or appear to) to mimic NF/Reform?s offering? He?ll just keep pushing.

[MadAmster]

Don?t you think he is ?near? power already? I?m sure the blue and red Tories (your phrase)are both desperate to remain in or return to power in four years so will modify their approach (or appear to) to mimic NF/Reform?s offering? He?ll just keep pushing.

No. I don't think he's near power. Reform has won a number of councils, 10 or 12 wasn't it? That's their opportunity to show that they have some sensible people with the right kind of qualities to run a council. If they can do that, enough people might be persuaded to vote for them in the hope that they can transfer local administration success through to national and international policies. They've given themselves a chance. If they are as "successful" as UKIP was with the one council they ever controlled (bankrupt inside 7 months) then Reform won't be the largest party at the next election. They've given themselves a chance to show what they can do. If they do that wisely, they'll win the next election. Failure at local level would, IMO, see them fall by the wayside nationally.

Not close but they have opened the door.

If they do screw up locally, I have no idea what will happen at the next GE. They won't win. I don't see red or blue doing well either. LibDem? Unlikely but it could happen. Red, Blue, Reform all with similar numbers of seats in the 150 to 175 ballpark? 100+ for LibDem and then the MP from the colonies (they aren't equal partners in a Union) and the odd green etc. A coalition would be the likely outcome but would other parties join in or would the biggest or two others form a minority government?

So many things can change between now and then

PS - I know, as does every other poster on here, that red/blue Tories is "my phrase" so I don't understand the need to emphasise it.

[Trickytreesreds]

Thicker than Reform followers? They're just like Trumpists. Hardly a working brain cell between them. He breaks the Law, they cheer. Judges stop him doing whatever it was. Judges get hammered for going against Trump when what they've actually done is uphold the Constitution and various Laws, the job he swore to do when he took the oath in January. He's treading all over freedoms he's running roughshod over people. He's just accepted a plane from the Qataris, the Law says he's not allowed to accept such gifts. That won't stop him. The Courts will. he'll then try to sack the judges and appoint new ones who will do as they're instructed rather than uphold the Constitution and the Law.

Farage sucks up to Trump. He'd do what trump's trying to do. Don't let the "man" anywhere near power.

lol, then there is an awful lot of thick disgruntled voters in this country.?
They are rising all the time.

Are you advocating for more of the same from Labour and the Tories?

Are you saying that the last 25 years have been to the satisfaction and wants of the general public?

I;ll just remind you that lies upon lies and broken promises have got us here. The current lot have made lying an Olympic sport and that fully costed and laid out manifesto, will go down in history as up there with Harrys "Spare" as a brilliant type of fiction.

Sorry my friend, the general populous have had enough.Time to rip up the closed shop and stir the ant nest.
You and sith may not like that, but like Europe, things are changing.

I'm waiting for the vipers to try and shut Reform down, just like they are trying in France and Germany.

[SithHappens]

Probably is near power if there was an election today.

Saw a recent opinion poll saying reform most likely to manage the economy well. Let's not forget farage was spaffing in his pants over liz truss budget.

[swaledale]

Probably is near power if there was an election today.

Saw a recent opinion poll saying reform most likely to manage the economy well. Let's not forget farage was spaffing in his pants over liz truss budget.

Well I was watching some interviews with folk who had voted for reform in Kent on the basis that they would stop the boats and lower immigration and on being informed that Local Government has no powers to do that, replied "Well that's disappointing". So I'd not bet against a substantial number of people believing Farage's "snake oil". They literally have no actual policies, just one line statements and a slogan to "fix Britain".

[MadAmster]

Read my post #3355.

[Trickytreesreds]

Read my post #3355.

the lib /dems? Are you having a laugh?

[MadAmster]

the lib /dems? Are you having a laugh?

If you could understand English you'd know I was painting a possible scenario and voting patterns emerging from the last GE and the recent local elections suggest LD may well do better than they normally do at the next GE.

[SithHappens]

It's a bit pathetic making this a thing. Its not like it's traditional, only been done since Boris was in power.

Don't get me wrong I have no issue with them doing it, but also none if they don't. If it was an traditional lasting 100s of years I'd agree but it's not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn84y6e3551o

isn't there more important things to moan about?

[ramAnag]

It's a bit pathetic making this a thing. Its not like it's traditional, only been done since Boris was in power.

Don't get me wrong I have no issue with them doing it, but also none if they don't. If it was an traditional lasting 100s of years I'd agree but it's not.
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cn84y6e3551o

isn't there more important things to moan about?

I don’t believe it! (Said in best Victor Meldrew voice). More than a ‘bit pathetic’, Sith. It’s a complete bloody irrelevance. Get on with what’s important and stop wasting time and (public) money.