O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[rolymiller]

Is it not on topic though asking about your views on tory policy on brexit? I aint bothered about stalking you as you put it because I have far better things to do but if you keep appearing on the same threads as me we are likely to engage in some sort of conversation. Maybe if you answered our questions we wouldn't need to ask em again. We would know where we stand.

I am going tp leave you alone now since you plainly find me irritating and just assume that you have no views on tory policies.

[great_fire]

Should go back to the terms of the EEC, when it was a trading block, that actually worked.

[BigLadonOS]

Why do the stay voters think a hard Brexit would be a bad thing? I personally am hoping for a no deal Brexit that would at least let us get on with what needs to be done instead of hanging on for maybe 10 more years before a final deal can be done.

While ever the Euro squad have a fingertip hold on us we wont be free from them and for me we cannot let that happen. If traders still left in the Euro Union think they can get by without trading with us then they need their heads feeling because it will never happen.
If anything we would be bigger spenders in Europe than we are already because we will have a bigger Government budget to spend than we currently have.

We are a fully grown up country who does not need a nanny like the Euro Union to keep us in check. We are more than capable of making and upholding our own laws. We have our own tradesman who can build. We have the means to look after ourselves as a country and buy whatever else we need from either inside or outside of Europe.

To cut a long story short Europe needs us more than we need them and they KNOW IT.

[WanChaiMiller]

To cut a long story short Europe needs us more than we need them and they KNOW IT.

To cut a long story short - they dont (need us more than we need them).

The Leave campaign (Johnson, Gove, et al - see my earlier post) promised a 'Free Trade Deal' with the EU. They did not say we would bomb out with no deal. If we dont get the Trade Deal they descrubed I think we should go to a second vote.

[BigLadonOS]

To cut a long story short - they dont (need us more than we need them).

The Leave campaign (Johnson, Gove, et al - see my earlier post) promised a 'Free Trade Deal' with the EU. They did not say we would bomb out with no deal. If we dont get the Trade Deal they descrubed I think we should go to a second vote.

The way the land lays at the moment nobody has a clue what the final deal could end up to be so for me I would rather just get out and then work from there. And you are dead wrong about not needing us because they do and without our funding the EU is only going down.

[KerrAvon]

How does that work, WanChai? The EU is not willing to enter into detailed negotiations about the future relationship until the withdrawal deal is agreed. In practical terms, that means that we will have left before we know what that relationship will look like.

You are arguing for a referendum in the future upon whether to apply to rejoin.

[WanChaiMiller]

How does that work, WanChai? The EU is not willing to enter into detailed negotiations about the future relationship until the withdrawal deal is agreed. In practical terms, that means that we will have left before we know what that relationship will look like.

You are arguing for a referendum in the future upon whether to apply to rejoin.

You mean my comment 'free trade deal'.

With respect Im simply quoting what was written on the Leave EU website at the time of the referendum (I copied and pasted it word for word on an earlier post). No idea how it will work - perhaps you should ask Gove, Johnson, Raab, etc why they endorsed it

Except to say I think its totally unworkable and evidence maybe of the Leave Campaign misleading the voter.

[Exiletyke]

You mean my comment 'free trade deal'.

With respect Im simply quoting what was written on the Leave EU website at the time of the referendum (I copied and pasted it word for word on an earlier post). No idea how it will work - perhaps you should ask Gove, Johnson, Raab, etc why they endorsed it

Except to say I think its totally unworkable and evidence maybe of the Leave Campaign misleading the voter.

Do you think this leaflet was fair & balanced?


https://assets.publishing.service.go...for-the-uk.pdf

[KerrAvon]

You mean my comment 'free trade deal'.

With respect Im simply quoting what was written on the Leave EU website at the time of the referendum (I copied and pasted it word for word on an earlier post). No idea how it will work - perhaps you should ask Gove, Johnson, Raab, etc why they endorsed it

Except to say I think its totally unworkable and evidence maybe of the Leave Campaign misleading the voter.

Davis tried to discuss the future relationship, but the EU negotiators refused until a withdrawal deal was agreed.

[WanChaiMiller]

Davis tried to discuss the future relationship, but the EU negotiators refused until a withdrawal deal was agreed.

This is the copy paste direct from the site... 'We should negotiate a new UK-EU deal based on free trade and friendly cooperation. We end the supremacy of EU law. We regain control. We stop sending £350 million every week to Brussels and instead spend it on our priorities, like the NHS and science research.'

All Im asking is if 'the people' dont get the deal that Gove, Johnson, etc campaigned on, should this give grounds for a second referendum? (I mean this both ways, Leave or Remain - baring in mind they do not say it is an option to bomb out with no deal and revert to wto tariffs.)

This is not a statement btw, there is a question mark after the sentence.