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[Balanbam00]

But for argument’s sake let us play devil’s advocate and assume Israel is still an occupier to this day, as some might argue, despite the lack of an international conflict. Then, are the settlements illegal?

The answer is still no, here is why:

The convention only applies to states that are a party to the convention itself. Thus, both the occupier and the occupied must be a signatory to the convention in order for it to apply. Since the Arabs of the “West bank” are not a state, they are not a signatory to the Convention, therefore the Fourth Geneva Convention does not apply to this conflict. This position is shared by Professor Julius Stone, one of the 20th century’s leading authorities on international law, “Israel and Palestine, Assault on the Law of Nations” discourse 2, pg. 177.

This was also the position of a French Court of Appeals which stated: the Palestinian Authority is not a party to the Fourth Geneva Convention and therefore the convention does not apply to them.

[Balanbam00]

BT : You co not comment on my post 276??

[Balanbam00]

Rich Palestinians - So please give from your heart

https://youtu.be/mbLEzvTg0yQ

[The Bedlington Terrier]

The UN have woken from their slumber at last...

https://medium.com/@thepalestineproj...n-74dc12d83e4d

[Balanbam00]

Israel Starts Building Largest Settlement in East Jerusalem

These settlements are illegal under international law. !!

President Jimmy Carter allowed the Security Council to pass a resolution that stated Israeli homes built in Judea/Samaria have “no legal validity.”

In order to find Israel’s settlements to be a violation of international law, first, Israel must be considered an occupier of foreign territory.Yet, Israel’s legal claim to the territory in question was recognised by the international community on several occasions. First, the land on both sides of the river Jordan were recognised as part of the Jewish National Home by the 1920 San Remo Conference. This was endorsed by the League of Nations (predecessor to the United Nations) in the 1922 League of Nations Mandate to Britain, and affirmed by article 80 of the United Nations charter in 1945. When Israel’s leaders declared sovereignty in all territory relinquished by Britain on May 15, 1948 (including the territory that anti-Israel people call the “West Bank”) it was recognised as the State of Israel by the General Assembly and Security Council by May 1949.

Jordan invaded (along with four other Arab states) and conquered this specific territory in 1949, annexed it in 1950, and gave it a new name: “West Bank” (of the river Jordan). Only two countries in the entire world recognised Jordan’s annexation (England and Pakistan) and not a single Arab country recognised this annexation.

Furthermore, article 2 of the UN charter forbids the acquisition of territory through war. Thus, Jordan’s acquisition and annexation of the territory was illegal under international law.

In 1967, Jordan again initiated war against Israel (along with two other Arab states) but Jordan was pushed out of the territory (back to Jordan’s recognised boundaries on the east bank of the Jordan river) by Israel. This re-acquisition of the territory by Israel was legal because article 51 of the U.N. charter permits a nation to defend itself from attack. It is understood that national self-defense often necessitates control of any territory from which the initial aggression was launched.

If the territory would have been recognised as within the borders of the State of Jordan by either Israel or the international community between 1949 and 1967, then it would have meant Israel’s return to the territory was an occupation, regardless of previous title. But Jordan’s annexation was not recognised by the international community, nor did the Jordan-Israel ceasefire agreement represent acquiescence to new borders by either side:

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Even the dead are denied...

https://www.middleeastmonitor.com/20...-palestinians/

[Balanbam00]

Defence minister Bennett instructs security authorities to cease releasing bodies of terrorists.

So far, Israel only kept holding the bodies of Hamas militants or other individuals affiliated with the terror group. Israel also continues to hold the bodies of terrorists who carried out serious attacks on Israeli civilians and troops.
The rest of the bodies are returned gradually to Palestinian hands, usually on Friday evenings, when public attention in Israel is not directed to it.
In the past, Israel returned the bodies of terrorists to prevent escalations in violence, but terrorist funerals have become a breeding ground for violence and incitement against Israel as mourners regularly call for vengeance on Israel.
Goldin's family lauded on Wednesday Bennet's decision to change the policy.

"We back the defence minister's decision," said the family. "It is inconceivable to continue releasing dead or living terrorists while the soldiers are held in Hamas's hands."

The release of terrorists is a prize that we cannot give Hamas while they're still holding soldiers and civilians."

The bodies of IDF soldiers Goldin and Oron Shaul have been held in the Gaza Strip by Hamas since 2014. (2014 ,2014 2014 !!!!!!)

[The Bedlington Terrier]

Either way it's an awful way for civilised human beings to behave. No excuses for either side. Shameful hardly does it!

[Balanbam00]

''Either way it's an awful way for civilised human beings to behave''. THIS IS WAR!!!!
With the Arabs it can be some unknown group?

Lebanon on June 12, 1982: Zechariah Baumel (body recovered in 2019), Tzvi Feldman, and Yehuda Katz.
Ron Arad, an I D F F-4 Phantom II navigator, was lost over Lebanon on October 16, 1986.
nothing has been heard since ,and he had a wife ,how long can/could she wait??
Guy Hever disappeared on duty in the Golan Heights on August 17, 1997.
The bodies of I D F soldiers Goldin and Oron Shaul have been held in the Gaza Strip by Hamas since 2014......and there are others!!!

Israel's official policy is not to release convicted terrorists for the release of abducted civilians or soldiers. In practice this policy has not been implemented since Menachem Begin's prime minister-ship, as Israel showed willingness to secure the release its M I A's (and in some cases of soldiers' remains) in exchange for a large number of Arab security prisoners held by Israel, even those who have killed Israeli civilians, and has done so in multiple occasions.

Gilad Shalit is a former MIA soldier of the Israel Defence Forces (I D F) who on 25 June 2006, was captured by Hamas militants in a cross-border raid via tunnels near the Israeli border. Hamas held him captive for over five years, until his release on 18 October 2011 as part of a prisoner exchange deal.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

This is not war, this is mass murder bordering on genocide...

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