O/T:- Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[Magpies1959]

I may put myself through watching next week's episode, just to see if they do actually take the mick out of Labour too.
The ginger growler is quite colourful, and not shy at showing people what a woman is.

[jackal2]

The programme had the host who joined in with the other four, panellists just taking the mick out of the Tory Party Conference. Fair enough if a few jibes going the other way were on offer, but it just gets tiresome after a while, and obviously set up to bash the government, not particularly neutral. Carol Vordeman was completely out of her depth, but it was amusing to see her struggle to change her facial expressions, plastic fantastic. I am all for political satire, but half an hour of one sided stuff week after week, from a supposedly neutral national broadcaster, does grind a bit.

Have I Got News For You has never been balanced, but I wouldn't necessarily single it out. It's just one of many BBC programmes whose overall political agenda is very clear. The BBC and the predominant political direction of its programming is a product of the way it's funded, demanding public money with menaces. Therefore, complaining to the BBC or Ofcom about individual programmes is largely futile.

There's no guarantee that if the BBC was finally forced to earn it's own keep it would change it's political leaning - indeed it might play even more to the tastes of its current audience to retain them for commercial survival - but at least we could dispense with the complete fallacy that it is a politically neutral state broadcaster, and people would only have to pay money to the BBC if they actually want to watch or listen to its content.

[PedroTheFisherman66]

Certainly Pedro, it's really pissed the likes of you and EP off job done.

That answer sounds a little like Brexit means brexit...!

[Magpies1959]

AC, I am thinking you are getting me mixed up with someone who gives a damn about the Tories, merely saying how tiring and boring one sided political satire gets, as it is week after week on that programme.
I am hoping that Reform are not the Tories in disguise, but there is plenty in their manifesto to suggest they are not.
If Labour drop all the woke nonsense (fat chance), and do what is best for the country, I am fine with it. Pigs might fly though.

[the_anticlough]

how tiring and boring one sided political satire gets, as it is week after week on that programme.
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I suppose one-sided Government in their party conference week begets one-sided satire...

Can you imagine a world where satire of the Govt wasn't possible? That's when you'd have cause for complaint (privately)

[PedroTheFisherman66]

AC, I am thinking you are getting me mixed up with someone who gives a damn about the Tories, merely saying how tiring and boring one sided political satire gets, as it is week after week on that programme.
I am hoping that Reform are not the Tories in disguise, but there is plenty in their manifesto to suggest they are not.
If Labour drop all the woke nonsense (fat chance), and do what is best for the country, I am fine with it. Pigs might fly though.

Any chance you can name one proper benefit of Brexit please ..?

[Magpies1959]

I think until we free ourselves of the ECJ, and either leave or change the structure of the ECHR, plus have a government completely behind Brexit, it will be difficult to see the full benefits of Brexit. There are green shoots though, as it was never going to be an immediate success, especially with world events that have happened since.

[jackal2]

I think until we free ourselves of the ECJ, and either leave or change the structure of the ECHR, plus have a government completely behind Brexit, it will be difficult to see the full benefits of Brexit. There are green shoots though, as it was never going to be an immediate success, especially with world events that have happened since.

Simply being out of the European political structure and bureaucracy is a good enough start in terms of what I was looking for. As you say, the further benefits will probably ebb and flow depending on how enthusiastic individual governments are about exploiting opportunities, but as far as I'm concerned, we're not 'European' and never have been. I have nothing against the ordinary people of European countries, but the European political 'project' isn't something we need to be part of.

[OchPie]

as far as I'm concerned, we're not 'European' and never have been.

I, and half the country, disagree.

[Elite_Pie]

as far as I'm concerned, we're not 'European' and never have been.

What exactly do you mean by 'European'?