O/T DDay for Brexit..well sort of...

[KerrAvon]

This is the copy paste direct from the site... 'We should negotiate a new UK-EU deal based on free trade and friendly cooperation. We end the supremacy of EU law. We regain control. We stop sending £350 million every week to Brussels and instead spend it on our priorities, like the NHS and science research.'

All Im asking is if 'the people' dont get the deal that Gove, Johnson, etc campaigned on, should this give grounds for a second referendum? (I mean this both ways, Leave or Remain - baring in mind they do not say it is an option to bomb out with no deal and revert to wto tariffs.)

This is not a statement btw, there is a question mark after the sentence.

As a statement of intent - a wish list - I think that represents a good outcome for Brexit. The future relationship deal may end up looking like that - we don't know and won't until it's been negotiated (I see the EU may be offering to extend transition until 2022 to allow that deal to be negotiated in the hope that the backstop doesn't have to be triggered).

We will have left by the time the future relationship is settled, so your referendum would have to be upon whether we rejoin.

[WanChaiMiller]

As a statement of intent - a wish list - I think that represents a good outcome for Brexit. The future relationship deal may end up looking like that - we don't know and won't until it's been negotiated (I see the EU may be offering to extend transition until 2022 to allow that deal to be negotiated in the hope that the backstop doesn't have to be triggered).

We will have left by the time the future relationship is settled, so your referendum would have to be upon whether we rejoin.

So, in actual fact, when Brexiteers say they knew what they were voting for, the truth is they didnt.

[WanChaiMiller]

Do you think this leaflet was fair & balanced?


https://assets.publishing.service.go...for-the-uk.pdf

Broadly, yes. Which bit do you disagree with?

[KerrAvon]

I think there are as many visions of Brexit as there were Brexit voters, many of them wholly unrealistic - I was threatened with a ban on Tykes Mad for pointing that out at the time. I was upsetting people apparently. I was just trying to debate the point.

The vote happened and we are where we are. Woe betide the political party that seeks to go back on that. Another referendum is Lib Dem policy and look at how the 2017 GE worked out for them.

[Exiletyke]

I think there are as many visions of Brexit as there were Brexit voters, many of them wholly unrealistic - I was threatened with a ban on Tykes Mad for pointing that out at the time. I was upsetting people apparently. I was just trying to debate the point.

The vote happened and we are where we are. Woe betide the political party that seeks to go back on that. Another referendum is Lib Dem policy and look at how the 2017 GE worked out for them.

Who threatened you with a ban?
Link please

[WanChaiMiller]

I think there are as many visions of Brexit as there were Brexit voters, many of them wholly unrealistic - I was threatened with a ban on Tykes Mad for pointing that out at the time. I was upsetting people apparently. I was just trying to debate the point.

The vote happened and we are where we are. Woe betide the political party that seeks to go back on that. Another referendum is Lib Dem policy and look at how the 2017 GE worked out for them.

Totally agree.

[mellowmiller]

Just out of interest why are the Remoaners so confident that a second referendum would reverse the decision of the first one. What if it didn't? What would they propose then? Best of 5? Double or quits? Rock, paper, scissors? Who knows?

[WanChaiMiller]

Just out of interest why are the Remoaners so confident that a second referendum would reverse the decision of the first one. What if it didn't? What would they propose then? Best of 5? Double or quits? Rock, paper, scissors? Who knows?

What if Leave dont get the deal they envisaged? Farage is in the campaign trail and Rees Mogg is trying to bring the PM down.

[rolymiller]

Wish somebody would threaten him with a ban on here and give us all a feckin rest...

[mellowmiller]

What if Leave dont get the deal they envisaged? Farage is in the campaign trail and Rees Mogg is trying to bring the PM down.

Parliament will deal with that.
The result of the referendum was "leave," there were no caveats.