Bolton and Bury games likely to be suspended....latest update, what a mess.

[CAMiller]

But isn't that symptomatic of Britain as a whole? This whole touchy feely attitude of mock sympathy? Like tying flowers to lampposts.

Do we need to hold a candlelight vigil?

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

Do we need to hold a candlelight vigil?

Great idea and maybe we could get Elton John to rewrite one of his songs.

Goodbye Bury FC.....etc

[flourbasher]

Dont see how the EFL can be held responsible for Days actions.

I dont think it is their duty in the sport micro manage every club.

No they shouldn't need to micro manage him because last December they should have barred him from owning any football club.
Not even allowed to put his name on the test paper as someone has already said.
What's the point in having procedures if they are so weak and inadequate that it allows them to endorse such an inappropriate individual. It's bordering on negligent.

Once the dust has settled I would suspect the senior managers at the EFL are going to be in for a rough ride and hopefully find it very difficult to keep their jobs

[Grist_To_The_Mill]

No they shouldn't need to micro manage him because last December they should have barred him from owning any football club.
Not even allowed to put his name on the test paper as someone has already said.
What's the point in having procedures if they are so weak and inadequate that it allows them to endorse such an inappropriate individual. It's bordering on negligent.

Once the dust has settled I would suspect the senior managers at the EFL are going to be in for a rough ride and hopefully find it very difficult to keep their jobs

With a huge payoff as they leave to another job they know nothing about.

[KerrAvon]

Apparently Dale has presided over failed companies in the past yet the EFL thought he was a fit and proper person to take over Bury.
Similarly Bassini's financial dealings were so bad that he was banned from football for a number of years and yet the EFL allowed him to get involved in the Bolton fiasco.
This isn't about whether someone looks "shifty" as you put it. The EFL has a test and neither of these two characters should have got as far as opening the exam paper.
As for the suggestion of a bond, well that seems like a reasonable idea. I don't necessarily agree with your point that it may put off good prospective owners as it may, in fact, have the opposite effect and would certainly help to bring about some financial stability within the game.
If memory serves me right I seem to recall that Tony Stewart was required to deposit a bond of £1/2 million with the EFL when we moved to Don Valley which would only be refunded if we moved back to Rotherham within 4 years.
That didn't work out too badly did it?

Businesses fail for a host of reasons and having presided over previous failed businesses would not automatically prevent a person from becoming an owner or director of a football club and nor should it.

The EFL is bound by its own rules which set out the criteria that have to be applied in the ‘fit and proper person’ test. A person subject to bankruptcy or an IVA or with convictions for serious criminal matters or for breaches of the Companies Acts would not pass it. Nor would someone with involvement with two previous insolvency events at football clubs, but none football insolvencies would not meet the test (unless they were of a nature that resulted in disqualification proceedings by the DTI).

If the EFL get it wrong, they end up on the end of an appeal.

The EFL could not prevent Bassini from getting ‘involved’ in the Bolton affair. That would be a matter between him and Bolton’s administrators. Had a sale to him been agreed and the appropriate notice been given to them, the EFL would then have made an assessment against the criteria set out within the EFL rules. I understand that there is a dispute between Bassini and the EFL over whether he would have passed the test.

[KerrAvon]

With respect, if Bolton can sign out of contract players from the Blackstock market, then why haven't they done that instead of unilaterally calling games off citing they are looking after their young players wellbeing? or as things stand are they even allowed to sign anyone at the moment? even someone out of contract?

Bolton are in administration, which means that the business is being run by insolvency practitioners. It is their duty to protect the interests of Bolton’s creditors. Signing players (and agreeing to pay them) is very unlikely to achieve that. It’s also highly unlikely that any player would see signing for them as a good idea.

I don't know if Bolton are subject to a transfer embargo.

[WanChaiMiller]

No they shouldn't need to micro manage him because last December they should have barred him from owning any football club.
Not even allowed to put his name on the test paper as someone has already said.
What's the point in having procedures if they are so weak and inadequate that it allows them to endorse such an inappropriate individual. It's bordering on negligent.

Once the dust has settled I would suspect the senior managers at the EFL are going to be in for a rough ride and hopefully find it very difficult to keep their jobs

Now pushing for EFL employees to lose their jobs.

Heres the regulation:

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance...irectors-test/

[WanChaiMiller]

Bolton administrator said on Monday the takeover bid fell through over the weekend. The club could not continue as a going concern. It had till 5pm today to find a new bid. Failing that they would resign from the league and start winding up the club on Wednesday.

[KerrAvon]

No they shouldn't need to micro manage him because last December they should have barred him from owning any football club.
Not even allowed to put his name on the test paper as someone has already said.
What's the point in having procedures if they are so weak and inadequate that it allows them to endorse such an inappropriate individual. It's bordering on negligent.

Once the dust has settled I would suspect the senior managers at the EFL are going to be in for a rough ride and hopefully find it very difficult to keep their jobs

They couldn't bar him because he didn't fail the test (and wouldn't today).

I get that you would you change the rules, but how would you do it? Bear in mind that the test has to be based upon transparent, reasonable and rational criteria.

[flourbasher]

Now pushing for EFL employees to lose their jobs.

Heres the regulation:

https://www.efl.com/-more/governance...irectors-test/

Yes I read that some weeks ago. It's inadequate.
It has the EFL,s logo on it so I presume they drafted it and they currently endorse it.

I don't think even Theresa May could have made a bigger mess