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    Quote Originally Posted by 1959_60 View Post
    BT, the whole of Lancashire, Greater Liverpool and Greater Manchester are under Tier 3. Pubs can open if they provide a "substantial" meal. (???)

    The Government has offered exactly the same amount of money to Gtr Manc as was accepted by Gtr Liverpool and Lancashire. Why should the Mancs get more? If they did, then Lancs and Liverpool would be up in arms - along with other areas that are sure to join Tier 3 very soon. The Government cannot be seen to be treating each region differently.

    Sinkov, the reason for the wild fluctuations in the figures of daily deaths is because deaths are under reported at weekend and then there is usually a spike on Tuesday when they catch up.
    For some reason your figures don't reflect this.
    Here you go 59er, I was in Paddington this morning...

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post



    make cuts to public services yet can award contracts (without scrutiny) and chuck money (fatten the pockets) of the dodgy profit-making Private sector - NHS my arsh, Private Health Service more like !



    and as for the Gov and their advisers - just a bunch of skaggy crooks with their elsewhere interests to help coordinate the Plandemic.

    e.g


    Patrick Vallance (12 yrs.) GlaxoSmithKline ex-director, he chairs SAGE which was created by Bill Gates for to advise WHO & UK gov- on vaccine & immunization policies, research, development, and delivery systems - he owns a deferred bonus of 43,111 shares worth £600,000 in GSK.
    Chief Medical Adviser Prof Chris Whitty, accepted, $40 million from Bill Gates to control British vaccine promulgation: and he stated “COVID-19 vaccines and drugs would need to be in place before measures could be lifted … .
    The Imperial College; Neil Ferguson for Covid-19 mortality predictions (0.5 million in UK) accepted £184 million from B. Gates.
    Prof J. van Tam served the interest of the pharmaceutical industry 1997 - 2000, as an Associate Director at SmithKline Beecham (GSK). In April 2001 he moved to Roche as Head of Medical Affairs, before joining Aventis Pasteur MSD in February 2002 as UK Medical Director. He chaired the European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control (ECDC) Expert Advisory Group on H5N1 human vaccines, sits on the UK national Scientific Pandemic Influenza Committee (SPI), the UK Scientific Advisory Group for Emergencies (SAGE) and was a short-term consultant and temporary adviser to the World Health Organization on many occasions. On WHO/van Tam’ advice of was a mass vaccination by H5N1 human vaccines from which Roche and GSK each earned billions £. And said industries was not held liable for the damaged inflicted on thousands of people by their vaccines.
    6) Professor Dame Angela McLean, Deputy Chief Scientific Adviser, her career and professorship was funded via the Imperial College; as by Bill Gates
    7) Sharon Peacock, the director of the National Infection Service: Welcome Trust/GSK (BMGF)
    8) Maria Zambon, director of Reference Microbiology Services at PHE and head of the UK World Health Organization National Influenza Centre (BMGF)
    9) Jeremy Farrar, director of the Wellcome Trust/GSK (BMGF)
    10) Dr Edward Mullins is a clinical lecturer at Imperial College (BMGF)
    11) Dominic Cummings and Ben Warner are related to an artificial intelligence company for data-mining operation which was teamed up with Palantir, founded by the rightwing billionaire Peter Thiel, who shares biotech startups with Bill Gates.






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    "Red Wall" breaker Tory MP, has acknowledged his constituency (Bolton North East) had better brace itself for another six months of this sh-itfest.

    As you are certainly a gentleman, thereto
    Clerk-like experienced, which no less adorns
    Our gentry than our parents’ noble names,
    In whose success we are gentle,—I beseech you,
    If you know aught which does behove my knowledge
    Thereof to be inform’d, imprison’t not
    In ignorant concealment.

    As for the Promised land , things are looking good,this lock down has now been lifted
    post pictures

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    Bloody hell Norder, corruption on a very wide scale methinks.

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    Just for 59er, alias Councillor Jim:
    Now the "evidence" shows us the pandemic is worsening, the Tory Government will stop the furlough scheme.
    Meanwhile, behind closed doors Blow Job is complaining that he cannot get by on his £150,000 per annum plus perks salary.
    If the Prime Minister is finding life such a struggle, how on earth does he expect many workers to get by on just £5.84 an hour when the Tory cuts to furlough sink in?

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    As you know BT, I am no apologist for Boris. I am a fully paid up member of the BDS club.

    But, when doling money out to regions that are put under Tier 3 restrictions, the Government need to be seen to be even handed across the board.

    Lancs, Liverpool and Sheffield have been given the same amount as Manchester. Why should Manchester get an extra amount? I would be a bit peed off if this happened, I live in Lancashire. We have the same area of deprivation as the other areas.

    If it was a case of who shouts the loudest gets the money then it would create absolute mayhem. Especially when areas in the North East, Nottingham, West Yorks etc. are probably going to come under Tier 3 restrictions.

    Being even handed is essential.

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    While I do not support any political party and have no wish to do so, but the current government of our country are not providing support where it is most needed.
    They spent approximately £500 million on the eat out to help out campaign yet the majority of conservative MP’s voted against providing free school meals over Christmas and Easter periods to needy children at a cost of approximately £20 million. When the eat out to help out may have led to an increase in the Covid-19 infection rate.
    Well done to Caroline Ansell, Robert Halfon, Jason McCartney, Anne Marie Morris and Holly Mumby-Croft for having the courage to ignore the tory whip and vote for needy children. As for Burnley’s MP Antony Higginbotham, he should be ashamed of himself.
    While I am not a fan of Manchester United one must congratulate Marcus Johnson for his campaign on this subject.
    One can only wonder at what spin Johnson and his cronies will put on this and how they are being even handed to all the children of the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vintage Claret View Post
    While I do not support any political party and have no wish to do so, but the current government of our country are not providing support where it is most needed.
    They spent approximately £500 million on the eat out to help out campaign yet the majority of conservative MP’s voted against providing free school meals over Christmas and Easter periods to needy children at a cost of approximately £20 million. When the eat out to help out may have led to an increase in the Covid-19 infection rate.
    Well done to Caroline Ansell, Robert Halfon, Jason McCartney, Anne Marie Morris and Holly Mumby-Croft for having the courage to ignore the tory whip and vote for needy children. As for Burnley’s MP Antony Higginbotham, he should be ashamed of himself.
    While I am not a fan of Manchester United one must congratulate Marcus Johnson for his campaign on this subject.
    One can only wonder at what spin Johnson and his cronies will put on this and how they are being even handed to all the children of the UK.
    Should have said Marcus Rashford.

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    According to the OBR the government needed to borrow £372 billion to see them through to April 2021, but that was before the new autumn lockdown support measures had been taken into account, god knows what the final bill will be, £500 billion, £600 billion, god knows who will be paying for it and how long it will take to pay it off, but all you hear from Lefties like Burnham, Starmer and our very own resident lefty BT is whinging, whining, carping and moaning. It's clear none of those three have any intention of picking up the tab do they.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    According to the OBR the government needed to borrow £372 billion to see them through to April 2021, but that was before the new autumn lockdown support measures had been taken into account, god knows what the final bill will be, £500 billion, £600 billion, god knows who will be paying for it and how long it will take to pay it off, but all you hear from Lefties like Burnham, Starmer and our very own resident lefty BT is whinging, whining, carping and moaning. It's clear none of those three have any intention of picking up the tab do they.
    Exactly Sinkov; if you think austerity was bad wait until paying for all this lot kicks in; its going to take years!! Remember ALL the lefty lot wanted this spending and MORE. I am not saying a lot of it is not necessary given what initially happened. When the pain of repaying comes full circle and you cant have XYZ social spending. Plus the addition of little minds and little memories which dim with the help of the mainstream media, just remember the politicians who then cry "nothing to do with us" as the big taxes come along and the pay packet looks and is a whole lot smaller.

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