O/T Which jab have you had?

[WanChaiMiller]

Haven’t you got your own thread on this topic on the other board?

You and Wan love lecturing others about non footy threads and just look at you? If you’re going to keep canvassing the moderators to move threads over, the least you can do is f@ck off over there and practise what you preach.

Tut tut.

Ive have never lectured anyone about posting political stuff on the other board. I said it in jest a few times after Cam made the move.

I was never in favour of moving these topics off the main page and said it at the time. Like you, I think these topics add to the board and increases traffic and interest. If you dont want to read it, move on.

[ragingpup]

Ive have never lectured anyone about posting political stuff on the other board. I said it in jest a few times after Cam made the move.

I was never in favour of moving these topics off the main page and said it at the time. Like you, I think these topics add to the board and increases traffic and interest. If you dont want to read it, move on.

Am I imagining it Wan or did most people favour moving political threads off the boards and Cam acted on that. Memory might be playing tricks on me. My only opposition to political posts being on here was that we were getting overrun by same posters posting the same usually right wing content and made us look like a miserable whiny bunch of old farts and footy 'lads', which I don't think represents the majority of footy fans in Rotherham or elsewhere. But it isn't a deeply held feeling and was quite happy to go with the flow. I remember feeling at the time that the majority of people who moaned about political posts contributed to them themselves and whose actual real problem was the appearence of opposing views.

[great_fire]

Am I imagining it Wan or did most people favour moving political threads off the boards and Cam acted on that. Memory might be playing tricks on me. My only opposition to political posts being on here was that we were getting overrun by same posters posting the same usually right wing content and made us look like a miserable whiny bunch of old farts and footy 'lads', which I don't think represents the majority of footy fans in Rotherham or elsewhere. But it isn't a deeply held feeling and was quite happy to go with the flow. I remember feeling at the time that the majority of people who moaned about political posts contributed to them themselves and whose actual real problem was the appearence of opposing views.

This site may not be like the Barnsley BBS site which is like a Momentum offshoot but surely there's always been more lefties on here than righties?

[Ericsladkilnhurst]

This site may not be like the Barnsley BBS site which is like a Momentum offshoot but surely there's always been more lefties on here than righties?

See if we can find a left back out of the lefties.

[howdydoo]

Wanchai

I think you’ve got it. Nice one.

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[WanChaiMiller]

So two days ago you were behaving like a 7 year old on this thread, but now want to engage? Fair enough.

Whan Macron referred to the AZ vaccine being being ‘quasi-ineffective’ in the over 65s, and the German goverment gave similar briefings to the German press, I don't think that they had in mind a possible link to blood clots in younger people. Do you?

When Von der Leyden and other EU Commissioners belly ached about AZ's performance on its contract (a matter that they have still not been willing to go to court on, which is telling) are you saying that was all to do with a possible connection with blood clots and that they wanted more because of it?

When Von der Leyden and other EU Commissioners threatened to seize AZ's assets and intellectual property, are you postulating a link with blood clots?

When the Italian Police very publically 'inspected' AZ facilities in that country are you suggesting that it was the possible blood clot squad that were involved?

I stand by my comments on the actions of the EU and some European leaders in relation to the AZ vaccine. Quite apart from treating the company disgracefully, they have managed to destroy European public confidence in its vaccine and are now in a position where they are cajoling AZ into providing supplies that they are struggling to use. It has and will cost tens of thousands of European lives, but, hey, it allows Wan to make a stupid point, so that's ok.

Your post was on 3rd April. Not outrageous of me to think you'd moved on from events of January.* If you were rehashing your thoughts of that period, maybe you should have made that clear.

What is clear is this: it was the failure of AZ to supply on time which severly hampered the EU vaccine programme and cost very many lives.

I know you are desparate spin this fact to fix the blame on a failure of the EU to run it as an anti EU story.

You are at pains to try and draw some kind of link between Brexit (which, by implication, was crucial the success of our vaccine roll-out), a spiteful response from the EU towards AZ (which must therefore be born out of envy and annoyance that we left) and the failure of the roll out in EU countries (which is clear evidence of the failure of the EU a trading bloc). Maybe youre right. I think its a concoction cobbled together by Brexiteers to cover over the shortcomings of Brexit.

The frustration shown towards AZ comes from their failure to supply on time. It is as simple as that.

[howdydoo]

Your post was on 3rd April. Not outrageous of me to think you'd moved on from events of January.* If you were rehashing your thoughts of that period, maybe you should have made that clear.

What is clear is this: it was the failure of AZ to supply on time which severly hampered the EU vaccine programme and cost very many lives.

I know you are desparate spin this fact to fix the blame on a failure of the EU to run it as an anti EU story.

You are at pains to try and draw some kind of link between Brexit (which, by implication, was crucial the success of our vaccine roll-out), a spiteful response from the EU towards AZ (which must therefore be born out of envy and annoyance that we left) and the failure of the roll out in EU countries (which is clear evidence of the failure of the EU a trading bloc). Maybe youre right. I think its a concoction cobbled together by Brexiteers to cover over the shortcomings of Brexit.

The frustration shown towards AZ comes from their failure to supply on time. It is as simple as that.

This is the most disingenuous post I've ever read on here.

So wrong, on so many levels.

I don't know how the rollout of any vaccine that is proven to save lives can be considered a failure. You really should refuse yours and ask for it to be administered to someone in the EU.

Maybe we should be pointing fingers to establish the origins of this virus.

[great_fire]

This is the most disingenuous post I've ever read on here.

So wrong, on so many levels.

I don't know how the rollout of any vaccine that is proven to save lives can be considered a failure. You really should refuse yours and ask for it to be administered to someone in the EU.

Maybe we should be pointing fingers to establish the origins of this virus.

It's called confirmation bias, people tend to pay little attention to information that challenges an existing belief or hypothesis, and focus intently on any supportive information. He's ignoring any anything that makes the EU look bad (vaccines cock-up) while concentrating on stories that make Brexit look bad (youths rioting in Northern Ireland).

To be fair, a Brexit supporter might do the same thing only the other way round.

[gm_gm]

It's called confirmation bias, people tend to pay little attention to information that challenges an existing belief or hypothesis, and focus intently on any supportive information. He's ignoring any anything that makes the EU look bad (vaccines cock-up) while concentrating on stories that make Brexit look bad (youths rioting in Northern Ireland).

To be fair, a Brexit supporter might do the same thing only the other way round.

Thats a fair analysis but even the biggest EU cult member must see that yesterday numbers as a result of being out of the club is a fantastic achievement.

Theres an FT article from the CEO of Moderna saying that the UK and Canada signed pre-deals in 2 days, he said dealing with the EU was nearly impossible because of the tiers of committees who then have to report back to the individual countries direct. Then two a three come back and ask daft questions like what colour vans will it be delivered in and the process starts all over again

I for hope the EU can finally get their act together

[ragingpup]

Thats a fair analysis but even the biggest EU cult member must see that yesterday numbers as a result of being out of the club is a fantastic achievement.

Theres an FT article from the CEO of Moderna saying that the UK and Canada signed pre-deals in 2 days, he said dealing with the EU was nearly impossible because of the tiers of committees who then have to report back to the individual countries direct. Then two a three come back and ask daft questions like what colour vans will it be delivered in and the process starts all over again

I for hope the EU can finally get their act together

When you say "even the biggest EU cult member must see that yesterday numbers as a result of being out of the club is a fantastic achievement" are you referring to the UK's high vaccine numbers?

If so, aren't you aware that the UK and any EU member could have done exactly what the UK did even if they were still EU members? Although the CEO of Moderna does have a point about the difficulty of 27 countries attempting to work together being somewhat problematic in emergency scenarios! I think the EU acted with best intentions, in trying to avoid internal conflicts over procurement, but the disadvantages outweighed them in this situation I think.