O/T:- ⚠️Impressed with the leadership [The UK Party Politics Thread]

[magpie_mania]

Very true Smiffy, very sore losers and all that though. All too used to getting their own way, and when they don't they skweam and skweam until they do.

Don't really want to go here again, but there's being a good loser and there is also being a good winner.

Can you honestly say that Johnson (if he really was pro-Brexit - I think he sways in the wind towards whatever seems best for him) had any idea how to implement it, that he was a good winner?

Still you haven't given any reasons why Brexit has been so good for us. Are there any?

[Woodypie]

Remainers were never going to get behind any plan for Brexit, you know that very well KM. Sunak has today signed the leadership over to the Labour Party at the next election, so lets just see how that pans out. I suggest we will be even more closely aligned with the EU and the WEF and WHO if that was even possible. Coming so close to yesterdays Remembrance Day celebrations, it is such a slur on those who lost their lives fighting for this country's freedom, as we will have no say in anything, from health (future forced pandemics), to finance, to the security of this country.

Conflating remembrance "celebrations" with Brexit is a step too far 59. My Dad, who died this year, fought in the Scheldt campaign, hand-to-hand combat with Germans. He was a life-long Labour supporter and voted Remain.

[Elite_Pie]

It seems the old saying that 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' could also become 'hell hath no fury like a Home Secretary scorned'! Cruella certainly doesn't mince her words. Must admit I'm enjoying this civil war, but I don't get what Sunak hopes to achieve by bringing Cameron back. Sacking someone on the right and bringing in a confirmed remainer will only send a few more Tory gammons to Reform UK. I just can't see what sort of voter it will attract.

The sad truth is that we are left with a hopelessly incompetent and corrupt government for another year. And to anyone who says "they are all as bad", when did we ever have a government this bad?

[Old_pie]

It seems the old saying that 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' could also become 'hell hath no fury like a Home Secretary scorned'! Cruella certainly doesn't mince her words. Must admit I'm enjoying this civil war, but I don't get what Sunak hopes to achieve by bringing Cameron back. Sacking someone on the right and bringing in a confirmed remainer will only send a few more Tory gammons to Reform UK. I just can't see what sort of voter it will attract.

The sad truth is that we are left with a hopelessly incompetent and corrupt government for another year. And to anyone who says "they are all as bad", when did we ever have a government this bad?

.. after the next election.

[Elite_Pie]

.. after the next election.

If you have that degree of foresight, what will the score be on Saturday?

I badly need a few YAPs.

[Old_pie]

If you have that degree of foresight, what will the score be on Saturday?

I badly need a few YAPs.

I've already predicted the result of the next election but I will predict that Notts will do better in the next 5 years than will the government.

[BigFatPie]

.. after the next election.

I wish I had the nerve to predict how bad the next government will be after repeatedly voting for the current sh!tshow.

[OchPie]

I wish I had the nerve to predict how bad the next government will be after repeatedly voting for the current sh!tshow.

There's some truth in the idea that the next government is going to have to spend significant time trying to overcome or fix all the issues, neglect and sheer craziness of this one.

[i961pie]

It seems the old saying that 'hell hath no fury like a woman scorned' could also become 'hell hath no fury like a Home Secretary scorned'! Cruella certainly doesn't mince her words. Must admit I'm enjoying this civil war, but I don't get what Sunak hopes to achieve by bringing Cameron back. Sacking someone on the right and bringing in a confirmed remainer will only send a few more Tory gammons to Reform UK. I just can't see what sort of voter it will attract.

The sad truth is that we are left with a hopelessly incompetent and corrupt government for another year. And to anyone who says "they are all as bad", when did we ever have a government this bad?

1978 ran it close for being incompetent but not as corrupt has this one.

[BigFatPie]

There's some truth in the idea that the next government is going to have to spend significant time trying to overcome or fix all the issues, neglect and sheer craziness of this one.

Well I suppose in Notts terms the next government will be taking over from Jamie Fullerton rather than Luke Williams but I’ll be surprised if people don’t notice just a rise in basic competence before any big ideological changes.