Tough one to call, that!Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
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27-11-2023, 09:56 AM #1
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27-11-2023, 10:28 AM #2
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My money's on both of them, Elite. Originally Posted by Elite_Pie
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27-11-2023, 11:20 AM #3
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How can you tell if a politician is lying.....his or her mouth it moving.
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27-11-2023, 11:49 AM #4
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They appear on GB News and present their own show. Originally Posted by Magpies1959
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27-11-2023, 12:15 PM #5
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Bullseye! Originally Posted by PedroTheFisherman66
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27-11-2023, 12:39 PM #6
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No, Bullseye was a different programme Originally Posted by SwalePie
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27-11-2023, 01:12 PM #7
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It would just be nice for the lefties on here to admit, Labour politicians lie as well.
I am not sure how you can comment on something you do not watch.
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Undoubtedly they do - the 'Dodgy Dossier' under Blair, and the anecdote about the minister (I forget who) asking an aide to read out a briefing in a taxi on the way a TV studio so that he could honestly say he had never read it, tells us that. All politicians have to lie to some extent as there are things they simply cannot admit to, or say. I think most people understand this. Originally Posted by Magpies1959
However, the difference is that Johnson turbocharged lying and took it to an industrial level during the Brexit campaign, where he lied about pretty much everything all the time. It was successful so he continued throughout his premiership. This has tarred all the Tories with the same brush, but they haven't helped themselves by their subsequent choice of senior leaders (not just the PM). Sunak, could and should be calling the lying out, but he is in too weak a position to be able to do so. All he can do is try to persuade people to believe all politicians are as bad as each other, which they aren't (on both sides of the aisle), and is very dangerous to democracy. I would hope that Starmer is different, and this, in turn, will lead the Tories to chose a leadership team with more integrity in the future.Last edited by Kent Magpie; 27-11-2023 at 01:37 PM.
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27-11-2023, 02:40 PM #9
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Starmer tells lies, but has friends to cover up his lies, as was proved with the beer and pizza party, a total farce, and far worse than the Boris cake witch hunt.
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Firstly, how was it proved, and secondly why was it "far worse" than the Boris cake? Originally Posted by Magpies1959
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