Reply With QuoteIf it goes the opposite way and we get countered our shapes gone to the dogs.Originally Posted by matt_magpie
Not defending short corners just looking at LW’s likely logic.
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We actually did it last season and scored and LW put it down to the surprise element. I also support that stats show hardly any goals percentage wise are scored from corners but in the second half they had about 4 players coming out the box to shut down the short and to whip in a surprise corner may have worked with more space in there.
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If it goes the opposite way and we get countered our shapes gone to the dogs.
Not defending short corners just looking at LW’s likely logic.
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The ratio for goals from corners may be low, but assuming Wrexham's goal would not count in those stats - as the initial ball in was repelled - how many more are scored from pressure being maintained from a corner situation?
Working towards an attempt on goal from a corner has got to be preferable to not doing so. Obviously you do have to factor in conceding from a clearance and breakaway, but are we saying it's generally more beneficial to the opposition in football in general to put the ball into the box, or is this just Notts we are talking about?
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Rigid patterns? As in rigid patterns of play aka passing moves?
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You have to wonder how these statistics are worked out. If the small percentage of goals scored from a corner is only because the scorer has hit the ball in direct from the cross then it would be a low count, or does it take into account the ball being passed around for a bit before someone whacks it in the net, if so, for how long or for how many passes before the corner kick is no longer taken into account? Who decides these things?
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I’m guessing from the amount of corners Mansfield had to goals scored in the Derby match the stats say differently??… or perhaps Mansfield sussed we can’t defend corners! Horses for courses, you adapt to your opponents weakness’s rather than stick to a rigid process, tbe Einstein thing again!
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Why play it high into the box when we don't have the players to get on the end of it? All that happenes is it'll end up with the opposition gaining the ball or it'll get hoofed into our own half. So long as we mix up the style of the short corners it's a good way of playing them in my book.
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Your just going off 1 game. Over 16 we're ahead of Wrexham
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Think I posted it a while back something I had found, the jist was about 1% were knocked straight in off the corner and just under 3% total scored from corners either being knocked in straight away or scored from second phase.
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I think LW knows all too well that testing his methods out, with this team, in an unknown and higher league, is one big controlled experiment.
He's finding out over time what works and what doesn't, who works and who doesn't.
The most important point I'd say is that he's earned the right to do it his way, and find out for himself. If he modifies his approach at all, it won't because of old school moaners in the stands, but because he's collected enough evidence over a sufficient period of time
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