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Thread: That Kid Crying

  1. #21
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    Stop trying to be sensible Harry for FFS, it don't wash on here.

    I'm sure if he had put the right blend out whatever that is, he would have been slaughtered by one of the resident experts on here, for risking players before a semi-final.

    One things for sure most of those youngsters haven't got the bottle to be top players, based on that showing.

    Someone will start a Tony Carr out thread soon, no doubt.

    It won't happen, but i would love to beat City, purely for the entertainment of seeing the scrummage, for final tickets.

    Get them yellow cards dusted down Woo, surely one of our posters will lead a protest

    PS AMER, Chambers is injured glad to see you still keep uptodate

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    Quote Originally Posted by TOWIE
    Another young lad on our books pelly ruddock didn't play today but has been on loan at Luton.
    Whichj is part of the problem with youth development imo.

    Pelly has featured in a couple of first team games. He has looked promising but we can't expect him to be able yet to deal with the quality he will face in the PL. The only answer is to ship him out on loan to a level he's probably too good for. We signed him from Boreham Wood who are only, I think, one level below the Conference about 2 years back and he's improved since then.

    I've suggested that "B" teams should be allowed to play in competitive leagues, like they do in Spain and Germany and I'm encouraged that Nick Haycock and the club are lobbying for this to happen. I also happen to know that Liam Brady at Arsenal is another who is desperate to see this allowed.

    But when I've mentioned the idea here it seems the general consensus is "bad idea it's unfair on the likes of Crew

  3. #23
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkup
    Stop trying to be sensible Harry for FFS, it don't wash on here.

    I'm sure if he had put the right blend out whatever that is, he would have been slaughtered by one of the resident experts on here, for risking players before a semi-final.

    One things for sure most of those youngsters haven't got the bottle to be top players, based on that showing.

    Someone will start a Tony Carr out thread soon, no doubt.

    It won't happen, but i would love to beat City, purely for the entertainment of seeing the scrummage, for final tickets.

    Get them yellow cards dusted down Woo, surely one of our posters will lead a protest

    PS AMER, Chambers is injured glad to see you still keep uptodate
    well said mate, all about a bit of balance at the end of the day!
    all screaming out for the youth and when they get the chance they screw it up simple as!
    but oh no, it was the wrong formation that did it, sorry WHU fans, we just couldn't cope with the ordeal=

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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzosbest74
    Sam Allardyce smiles whilst we weep bitterly in our hearts...

    Shows you and the world exactly how much West Ham United means to him.
    You wanted the kids played - he played them - they were clearly not up to it. or was it not their fault?

    [/quote]


    That's a very black & white opinion of how to use youth players imo. You are suggesting (and sounding a bit like Allardyce himself by doing so) that the youth players failure proved that there is no quality in the ranks. Your comments indicate that it was the team who were to blame and not the managers selection which was justifiable in your opinion.

    Nonsense.

    Big Sam has a duty of care to those young players and he should never have played so many at the same time in a formation alien to the first team and the successful U21's. He tried to prove a point by losing and you seem to ha

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    I don't think anyone is complaining that a few kids were played. Simply that it was a bit much to expect a whole batch of them to cope against a team who, after all, are only about 5 or 6 places lower than us in the overall scheme of things.

    Had it been Notts County we might have got away with it. It wasn't and we didn't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ironworks1


    He plays no kids he gets slaughtered and accused of not giving youth a chance. He plays too many, he gets slaughtered.

    But that's it isn't?

    It's either one extreme or the other.. . . . . No young players even as sub in the League or play all of them at once in the cup.

    I agree that there were no world beaters on show btw but it would have been nice to see the cream of the crop (Lee) either in this game or as a sub in the league particularly as we've played numerous games without a striker.

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    That Kid Crying

    kirkup

    Ruddock was an unused sub for the W.B.A. game last Saturday, the Development Squad have played no games since that time and neither have the U18s and there is no info online confirming he is injured so what's your source for this news?


    West Ham United: Jaaskelainen, McCartney, Nolan, Tomkins, Jarvis, Rat, Noble, O'Brien, Diame, C Cole, J Cole
    Subs: Collison, Maiga, Adrian, Diarra, Demel, CHAMBERS

    West Bromwich Albion: Foster, Olsson, Ridgewell, Morrison, Brunt, Lugano, Mulumbu, McAuley, Jones, Berahino, Anelka
    Subs: Myhill, Yacob, Amalfitano, Sinclair, Sessegnon, Vydra, Dawson



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    Quote Originally Posted by bonzosbest74


    He plays no kids he gets slaughtered and accused of not giving youth a chance. He plays too many, he gets slaughtered.

    But that's it isn't?

    It's either one extreme or the other.. . . . . No young players even as sub in the League or play all of them at once in the cup.

    I agree that there were no world beaters on show btw but it would have been nice to see the cream of the crop (Lee) either in this game or as a sub in the league particularly as we've played numerous games without a striker.[/quote]

    Too many mate and we are the laughing stock up and down the land at present.

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    bonzo

    Some on here haven't sussed what Sam set out to do today.

    They will argue long and hard in his defence but when he leads us into relegation then they will understand that he was never what was required after we came up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kirkup
    Stop trying to be sensible Harry for FFS, it don't wash on here.

    I'm sure if he had put the right blend out whatever that is, he would have been slaughtered by one of the resident experts on here, for risking players before a semi-final.

    Kirky, your finger is so far off the pulse it's unbelievable.

    Sam is not being criticised because there's a vendetta or because everyone is deluded and thinking that they're 'experts' as you mockingly phrased it.

    He is being Royally c.unted off because the bloke is doing a shockingly poor job. If this was a freak result and the first team were performing any better then he would not be getting this amount of stick.


    Clearly yourself, Harry & John have a higher opinion of him than the majority of supporters on hammersmad but surely as a fan you must be able to understand why people are frustrated? The bloke has been able to spend the sort of money that Zola & Grant could only dream of and has

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