Cameron begs Putin to intervene in independence referendum

[Taintedice]

Nae point taking Walter seriously. He constantly refers to Scotland as a Na zi police state, yet goes aff his nut at someone referring to Russia as a commie one. China is the only country in the world with any money, why wouldn't he try and get them involved in Scotland.

[shedka]

I wonder how desperate things have to get before the people currently undecided realise the UK Govt is trying to shaft us?

I understand that those that vote No will do so no matter the evidence, sadly.

I live in hope enough change their minds and enough undecided end up voting Yes

We have no voice, we don't choose who governs us, we get a fraction of the revenue we generate back, there isn't any doubt as a country we are being held back with the status quo, Scotland could flourish but too many seem to not want to take the chance

[EastStand_Elite]

Why does Cameron not want us to go so badly? Very interesting.

[Taintedice]

He should have a live televised debate with Salmond to answer that question

[stewarty27]

Why does Cameron not want us to go so badly? Very interesting.

The answer to that is MONEY, TRIDENT, AND OLD FASHIONED COLONIALISM !!

The money thing is Scotland contributes more to London than it gets back, (per GDP Scotland gives 9.6 and gets back 9.3. this is WITHOUT oil and gas revenues they go straight to westminster) So Scottish Independence would cost the UK, Scotland would be 4.3 Bn per annum better off independent.

Trident, An independent Scotland would not be paying millions towards this WMD that can never be used, Instead that money would go towards Scotland people and its conventional defences, Also the removal of trident from Scotland will cause huge problems for the UK,, both within the world domination axis and NATO the USA are putting massive pressure on the UK over this,

Colonialism, Would stick in the gullets O the ultra rich who really power the UK to lose Scotland, FFS they've only now just got over

[stewarty27]

Walter as a Scottish Unionist
your response please...



We now know that the Tories and, by association at least, their British Labour allies are conspiring with foreign governments against Scotland's interests. Surely even the most committed Scottish unionist must find this unacceptable. Surely it must be apparent to all that the British state is no friend to Scotland. Cameron would do well to check what the UN Charter has to say about external compulsion or interference with the right of self-determination - the right of nations and peoples to freely choose their sovereignty and international political status.

[Sir_Walter_Timslayer]

Desperate stuff from Dave!! Hooking up with an undemocratic with an appalling human rights record to try and influence a democratic vote?

What next, Kim Jong Un to tell us all how bad it'd be if we vote YES?

Maybe the yessies should hook up with their own undemocratic with an appalling human rights record. Maybe China or Qatar say?

And while Salmond has got Snobs Law on the statute book, don't lecture and of us about human rights [/quote







Walter a classic Unionist/BT/Nayer, He asks a question or makes a statement, And when his uttering are are totally discredited and rubbished, he waits a wee while and back he comes the wi the same shyte that he's just had rammed up his @rse !

From another thread,

""Is that the SNP's intention in whooreing the country to China and Qatar? Aye social justice indeed.

Don't know about

[Sir_Walter_Timslayer]

Never thought I'd see the day when the buns on here got intae bed wi' Commie Russia

Breaking news - Commie Russia ceased to exist about 20 years ago. Round about the last time Dundee had anything like a decent football team.[/quote]This fud is getting more desperate by the day, he's getting worse than the twins for making a c*nt of himself in the process, as well

It was actually the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics that collapsed 20 years ago, Russia is a country in itself. Moron.[/quote]

Sorry, my mistake, I'm obviously too much of a moron to know that it was the USSR that collapsed in the, which heralded the collapse of communism. Jow silly of me. I didn't realise that commie Russia was part of commie USSR, and the commie part of both collapsed at that time.

At the time of the USSR the country in its own ri

[Sir_Walter_Timslayer]

Nae point taking Walter seriously. He constantly refers to Scotland as a Na zi police state, yet goes aff his nut at someone referring to Russia as a commie one. China is the only country in the world with any money, why wouldn't he try and get them involved in Scotland.

" a Na zi police state"

When the police can unilaterally define a song sung at a football match as a criminal offence, what else do you have?

[Sir_Walter_Timslayer]

Walter as a Scottish Unionist
your response please...

My response is that you make too many assumptions about my political position. For the record, I think of myself as a social liberal economically a mild socialist. I don't care who knows and your're free to criticise my vies if you want but please refrain from putting labels on me to suit your own political agenda. I don't wake up in the morning thinking of myself as a unionist, though I do want Scotland to stay in the British and European unions.

I don't want to make too many assumptions about your political leanings but you do sound to me like a extreme Scottish Nationalist, they type of nationalist that goes to bed only to recharge your visceral racist hatred of the English.