Finances for 2012-13

[Rattea]

Has got me thinking tho. Weeds are held up as a badly run club but when you look at them this way they seem to be doing a great job. Off the field over achieving.

Leads me to the point Ramondo raised about over expectation. I see it as when looking at football people dont live in reality. They may well budget at home but they think because football is all over the media and high profile its big business.

Looking at these figures most clubs are small businesses with high outgongs disproportionate to the income. Some peoples expectations are aligned to these outgoings.

TO build the squad we have on the wages we pay in this day and age is no mean feat. this has been done over several years. By contrast look at florest and their expenditure and lack of foundation.

One thing does concern me about the examples at the top. florests debt is not a true reflection of the overall debt as its been capitalised. We all know its much higher. How many other clubs have done this?

[triz]

Thanks RR,

I know this isnt necessarily the topic for this post, however Ratty annoys as he is one of those people who post things but will not admit when they get there facts wrong.



EDIT. Link to correct thread on the subject.

Please attempt to keep on topic and not kill the thread with off topic item of your own agenda.

I hope that mod edit wasn't from you rat, coz the amount of threads you've diverted to clough being god and hughes being **** is a joke.

oh and MR - the rat is a classic wum. he posts what he does to get a response. he likes the controversy. we've all been where you are but eventually you'll learn to take him with a pinch of salt and ignore most of it. not so long ago triz was in that early stage...now look at the bromance blossom! :-P[/quote]


Whenever we argued it was more like ollie reed and alan bates wrestling naked in front of the fire. Now it has just

[Rapid]

Thanks RR,

I know this isnt necessarily the topic for this post, however Ratty annoys as he is one of those people who post things but will not admit when they get there facts wrong.



EDIT. Link to correct thread on the subject.

Please attempt to keep on topic and not kill the thread with off topic item of your own agenda.

I hope that mod edit wasn't from you rat, coz the amount of threads you've diverted to clough being god and hughes being **** is a joke.

oh and MR - the rat is a classic wum. he posts what he does to get a response. he likes the controversy. we've all been where you are but eventually you'll learn to take him with a pinch of salt and ignore most of it. not so long ago triz was in that early stage...now look at the bromance blossom! :-P[/quote]


Whenever we argued it was more like ollie reed and alan bates wrestling n

[roger_ramjet]

[quote="Rattea"]Has got me thinking tho. Weeds are held up as a badly run club but when you look at them this way they seem to be doing a great job. Off the field over achieving.

Leads me to the point Ramondo raised about over expectation. I see it as when looking at football people dont live in reality. They may well budget at home but they think because football is all over the media and high profile its big business.

Looking at these figures most clubs are small businesses with high outgongs disproportionate to the income. Some peoples expectations are aligned to these outgoings.

TO build the squad we have on the wages we pay in this day and age is no mean feat. this has been done over several years. By contrast look at florest and their expenditure and lack of foundation.

One thing does concern me about the examples at the top. florests debt is not a true reflection of the overall debt as its been capitalised. We all know its much higher. Ho

[swaledale]

[quote="triz".


As for the million pound players, well we sold players to fund those didnt we (just like i also told you). As the stats above prove, look at our spend for last year, we made 800k. Another thing i was right about.[/quote]




Let me correct you ona FACT - my comment was specifcally about I dont buy "lack of resources" as a reason for Cloughs lack of success, as you claimed to do in your opinion of Clough as a manager, i formed my opinion from watching his teams and listening to his public utterings, my view was that he was distinctly average, your view was different. I asked you for facts to back up the bottom 6 claim, I was aware the wage budget wasnt the highest (I doubt Bournemouths is either but Howe s

[triz]

Yes sometimes it can be done, I have never denied that (although i noticed you have been locked in a debate recently with you attempting to show the correlation of money with success, so you know it's pretty rare). However a lot of the time teams go into freefall instead. I have listed many times the number of 'big' teams that have been relegated from the prem and then dropped down again into league 1. Clough stopped that happening (when it looked likely) and under orders reinvented the squad on the cheap and cut the wage bill massively and built something with this club. Maybe someone could have done better but i thought it was more likely that someone would do worse. If you remember i told you this not long ago, and i said i think now we are in a position, that the risk of relegation isn't that great, and so clough could feasably be got rid of and we could gamble on a new manager.

The point of fact is, he did have a bottom 6 wage bill like i said. And he didn't have a big budget to