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  1. #21
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    My view is, and has been from the start, that he should be allowed to play professionally again if he can find a club that are prepared to take him. His crime is awful, particularly if he did rape the girl. But if he believes he is innocent of that accusation then for him to apologise would indicate guilt. However, assuming he is innocent of that, his behaviour towards the girl is disgraceful and because of this and his unwillingness to show regret concerning his treatment of the girl shows the kind of man he is and he cannot be surprised by the fact that every club that hints that it may sign him provokes outrage and condemnation from the people who support that club. As I say, it is his right to try and pursue a career that he is suited to but it is also the right of every club in the British Isles to say "no thanks".

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    Just what was his behaviour towards the girl?

    We know she accused the two players of rape sometime late in the following day and not right away and one was found guilty and one wasn't and although the whole incident is unseemly and foolish behaviour of a girl going back to a hotel room with a celebrity footballer, maybe just like the Cornwall incident? So in this case Evans and his family are not going to be pre disposed to her claims and accept her version. There was one claim where she supposed to have used words during the incident that IF true should have ruled out any verdict of rape but I wasn't there and so don't know but the whole country forcing any potential club both at home and oversees not to sign him OR else seems like the worst kind of behaviour and lynch mob mentality that few, if anyone else, even murders have experienced.

    Does anyone know of any drunk driver who kills a child or adult on a zebra crossing that has been banned from driving for life or not allowe

  3. #23
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    Clearly the facts of this case are not known in detail. However, if reports are to be believed then one phoned the other to say "I've got a girl" and Ched hopped on, as it were. Don't misunderstand me, I have no time for the girl either. But she has at the very least been used abs abused. Footballers are supposed to be role models. If your daughter were the victim in this crime would you be so charitable. I suspect not

  4. #24
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    The details of the trial are available.

    She got in a taxi with McDonald who contacted Evans to say "I've got a girl".

    Went back to hotel, McDonald did the dee, then Evans. But verdict was she never consented to Evans but did to McDonald (I presume the jury's thinking was she got in a taxi with McDonald - if she wanted nowt to do with him she would not have got in the taxi).

    I think Evans should try to clear his before looking for a club to sign him.

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    I don't see mob rule or a lynch mob mentality, I just see public opinion.

    I don't really see a problem here - Evans is entitled to play football, clubs are entitled to employ him (or not), supporters, partners and sponsors of those clubs are entitled to express their opinions on the prospect of him representing their clubs - and withdraw their support if they feel strongly enough about the issue.

    If you want examples from recent history of those who lost their careers at the altar of public opinion, how about Michael Barrymore or John Leslie? - neither of whom were convicted of anything to the best of my knowledge. There may be one or two politicians out there also who feel they lost their careers for offences considerably less heinous than Evans'.

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    This is the first time I`ve posted on this topic (Ithink) but if coppers,teacher`s,priest`s ,scoutmasters get caught in uncomprising position`s,they either get prison,fined or/both and put on *** offender`s list`s.
    So why should a footballer be any different.I myself have stated on here before,I got found guilty of affray,even though I was`nt,and it stopped me from getting the employment I wanted.
    IF he is found not guilty,at his appeal,all well and good,if he lose`s time to find other employment,and admit you blew it.

  7. #27
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    Quote Originally Posted by DGFG
    I don't see mob rule or a lynch mob mentality, I just see public opinion.

    I don't really see a problem here - Evans is entitled to play football, clubs are entitled to employ him (or not), supporters, partners and sponsors of those clubs are entitled to express their opinions on the prospect of him representing their clubs - and withdraw their support if they feel strongly enough about the issue.

    If you want examples from recent history of those who lost their careers at the altar of public opinion, how about Michael Barrymore or John Leslie? - neither of whom were convicted of anything to the best of my knowledge. There may be one or two politicians out there also who feel they lost their careers for offences considerably less heinous than Evans'.
    Is this public opinion where Political Leaders and Chief Constables are going against natural justice they are supposed to uphold and support and also online petitions and twitter?

    See li

  8. #28
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    Quote Originally Posted by MikeSB
    I don't see mob rule or a lynch mob mentality, I just see public opinion.

    I don't really see a problem here - Evans is entitled to play football, clubs are entitled to employ him (or not), supporters, partners and sponsors of those clubs are entitled to express their opinions on the prospect of him representing their clubs - and withdraw their support if they feel strongly enough about the issue.

    If you want examples from recent history of those who lost their careers at the altar of public opinion, how about Michael Barrymore or John Leslie? - neither of whom were convicted of anything to the best of my knowledge. There may be one or two politicians out there also who feel they lost their careers for offences considerably less heinous than Evans'.
    Is this public opinion where Political Leaders and Chief Constables are going against natural justice they are supposed to uphold and support an

  9. #29
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    I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't be allowed to work ... just not is something so high profile and with such a role model side as football.
    To repeat Flyboy's point. Would a teacher be allowed to carry on his profession if convicted of the same offence?

    The cash question is an interesting one. I am presuming that, as footballers pay into a PFA scheme for their retirement or when they can't play, Evans is not a drain on the public purse. I don't, however, know this for a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AlexLeicester
    I don't think anyone is saying he shouldn't be allowed to work ... just not is something so high profile and with such a role model side as football.
    To repeat Flyboy's point. Would a teacher be allowed to carry on his profession if convicted of the same offence?

    The cash question is an interesting one. I am presuming that, as footballers pay into a PFA scheme for their retirement or when they can't play, Evans is not a drain on the public purse. I don't, however, know this for a fact.
    Mob rule has made it very difficult for this man to find any work, I would suggest, even outside football. Of course, he will be a drain on the public purse if he is actively seeking a job. The state has already kept him for 2 and a half years, why should we continue to pay for him to live? We all know how hard it is to find a full time job these days, without the stigma now exacerbated by the media circus. Read this article again...it hits

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