Crewe Alex Protests happening

[bigroof]

How can a fans forum be good news? In what way has six weeks changed that we require another fans forum? Just a pointless exercise in patronising loyal fans disgruntled with the club even more. Davis, Dario and Bowler certainly won't be getting the easy ride they had at the last forum that's for sure.

Rather than thinking of it as patronising, think of it as the club actually responding to fans, which makes a change. Sounds like you're going to it. What questions do you think they'll find difficult, or awkward?

[TrinidadsNumberOne]

Last time the questions were carefully selected. Not one question asked the manager (or board members to a lesser extent) about his/their futures. I very much believe this will happen again too. I do believe the club's interest is to spew the unique and special club line that only they are so fond of and to 'educate' the younger supporters (in the loosest sense of the word) as Steve Davis said they needed doing so on Radio Stoke on Monday Night. Thankfully, there is a cohesive opposition towards Steve Davis and that will be evident on Saturday. This protest will not be abusive but is intended to make our voices heard. We want the board to see just how disgruntled we are and we want them to make the decision that would go some way to appeasing us. That decision being to remove a failing manager so blinded by his own self-importance who has nothing but contempt for the fans and even some of his players from his post. Where was the apology for Saturday's failure or indeed the season's fai

[Alexman]

Going slightly off topic of the fans forum, i'm seriously beginning to bang my head against a wall with some of our fans that still want Davis in charge. I know its all a game of opinions and nobodies opinion is wrong etc etc. But I cannot understand who can say Davis should stay?
To get to the opinion that Davis should stay you have to go

*Terrible on pitch performances for 3 years - That's fine

*Terrible Signings for 3 years - That's fine

*Falling out with players and releasing them, Grant, waters, phillips etc - That's ok too

*Lying to the fans over and over "Grant wanted to move down south" - 13miles?. "Recruitment must be better" 3 seasons running etc - That's OK as well

*14% win ratio - That's fine

*Blaming the players, board and fans for the clubs terrible performances and never himself - That's OK as well

* Relegated at Vale park after losing 3-0 - That's fine

* Trying to divide the older and younger fans on radio - that's fine

* Saying Grant wasn'

[itwasin]

No your correct Alexman remember some time ago TV Programe called "Crewe a town of Simple Folk" they must have read posts on this site thats for sure. We know who they are %

[Furberstreet]

During last season, I finally lost patience with the clichés Davis continued to spout and stopped feeling sorry for Davis battling to keep Crewe up with (allegedly) so few resources at his disposal. Once again, the same clichés are being repeated - better recruitment, better loan signings and experience to help our younger players. I do not disagree with any of the points as being critical to a successful first team, but it simply insults our intelligence to hear them spouted season after season with no sign that any of the manager's actions are actually conforming to them. It may be that sacking Davis is seen by some as akin to concerns about leaving the EU. However, look at it from the perspective of we do not know what the future will be like, but at least we know enough not to want the present set-up to continue.

[bigroof]

[quote="TrinidadsNumberOne"]Last time the questions were carefully selected. Not one question asked the manager (or board members to a lesser extent) about his/their futures. I very much believe this will happen again too. I do believe the club's interest is to spew the unique and special club line that only they are so fond of and to 'educate' the younger supporters (in the loosest sense of the word) as Steve Davis said they needed doing so on Radio Stoke on Monday Night. Thankfully, there is a cohesive opposition towards Steve Davis and that will be evident on Saturday. This protest will not be abusive but is intended to make our voices heard. We want the board to see just how disgruntled we are and we want them to make the decision that would go some way to appeasing us. That decision being to remove a failing manager so blinded by his own self-importance who has nothing but contempt for the fans and even some of his players from his post. Where was the apol

[Timmy58]

But, Bigroof, far more pertinent than a blind protest at a current situation with no solution. I refer to an article I read yesterday by Jules Hornbrook which I thought hit several nails on the head and was far more level headed than most things I have read on here

[bigroof]

But, Bigroof, far more pertinent than a blind protest at a current situation with no solution. I refer to an article I read yesterday by Jules Hornbrook which I thought hit several nails on the head and was far more level headed than most things I have read on here

Yes, I've read Jules' blog too. He's always well-balanced, though I disagree with him on the extent to which our Academy can fulfil the role it has always done. He felt that we could only produce League Two standard players these days. I think it's certainly possible to do that and more, and still sell players to Championship clubs, many of whom, let's face it, have a great deal of cash these days. I put that to him (this was Facebook), and he qualified his view, saying that around 10% of lads who might've come here in the past, would now go to the bigger clubs in the north-west and midlands. I'm not sure how true that is, but we do know that Crewe have scouts at such club

[Timmy58]

He implies, if memory serves, that there is no point in changing the manager unless other things change as well. No point in changing unless we can be certain things would improve.

[Furberstreet]

I thought that Jules' blog made for interesting reading. I do not agree with him that Davis should be retained unless there are other key changes at the Club - presumably instigated by the departure of our majority shareholder? There are many examples where a change of manager has improved the attitude and performance of a playing squad. There may be limited scope for change within the Club even then, but obtaining a fresh perspective and introducing different training/fitness methods would surely be welcomed and a sensible gamble. Otherwise, if there are no boardroom changes, when would it be right to remove Davis? When we are at the bottom of League Two?