Thompson

[PortugueseFrank]

I'm afraid Mr T does nothing to alleviate speculation and suspicion. His known behaviour does not encourage trust. Terms such as 'highly unlikely' are largely meaningless as long as possibility remains and no adequate presentation is made in support.

The burden of proof for this speculation falls with those asserting it as fact. Just cause a guy is untrustworthy etc it doesn’t mean he’s guilty of the actions asserted without some actual proof.

If someone can show invoices being paid by club etc then I’ll believe it.

Again though. The auditors won’t sign off on this expense just as the previous auditors didn’t for the Oz trips unless it can be justified and even if housing was able to be jusifitued they couldn’t justify the cost of the old course when more economical options available.

[RAM1971]

The burden of proof for this speculation falls with those asserting it as fact. Just cause a guy is untrustworthy etc it doesn’t mean he’s guilty of the actions asserted without some actual proof.

If someone can show invoices being paid by club etc then I’ll believe it.

Again though. The auditors won’t sign off on this expense just as the previous auditors didn’t for the Oz trips unless it can be justified and even if housing was able to be jusifitued they couldn’t justify the cost of the old course when more economical options available.

My dear Iberian Peninsular Open and Direct Person, who has stated anything as FACT?? Let's not rush into assuming things that have not been said. Speculation and suspicion require NO proof, merely circumstances and facts which arouse such. Establishment of the truth beyond reasonable doubt certainly places the burden of proof on the accuser, but we are not at that end of the game. Untrustworthiness certainly is justifiable where 'unproven' circumstances lead one to that conclusion and there are certainly plenty of those connected with the subject under discussion. Untrustworthiness is simply a state of having no trust (or lost trust) in a person or something else for various reasons arousing that caution.

If you think that certain questionable 'expenses' cannot be written off as legitimate undertakings, then I am afraid you have a lot to learn about the business and financial world. Please take note that this is a general statement and should not be construed as an attempt to 'prove' wrongdoing in the present case. The FACT that such things happen elsewhere coupled with the seedy goings on at Tannadice, opens the door to speculation and suspicion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Openness is the key towards eradicating unwarranted suspicions and speculation.

By the way, I want my Dundee United back! I have seen sufficient facts and circumstances over the past 3 years or so which boldly underline for myself that such a day is not going to happen anytime soon, if at all. Therein lies my greatest fear. Do I wait for the ultimate 'proof' to recognise it as fact?

[arab_plumber]

Jim knew what he'd done had crossed the line and his time was up that's the difference

Thompson will continue to rip the piss and bleed us dry

[darrenshedtastic]

not defending thompson cause alot of mistakes have been over the course of 2/3 years but have to wonder if this topic would be even made if we hadnt just lost 3-0 to saints?

never hear anything about him when were doing well but once we lose a game suddenly thompson pops up again haha

[deebuster]

not defending thompson cause alot of mistakes have been over the course of 2/3 years but have to wonder if this topic would be even made if we hadnt just lost 3-0 to saints?

never hear anything about him when were doing well but once we lose a game suddenly thompson pops up again haha

Maybe not a hot topic when the team wins or making signings but is always on the back burner.
Its a classic standoff.......most people want him gone......he wants to go......nobody wants to meet his unrealistic demands.....so he sits tight.
As he operates at arms length......its hard to gauge his current views....he uses Coke Stewart and Southern as a firewall and dialogue despite promises is hardly satisfactory.

This can never be fixed, and even if promotion is achieved he is tainted in many eyes.

His conduct has been reckless and careless, and certainly if United were an open club, not a private fiefdom would have seen him gone a long time ago. His dereliction of duty has put our club in danger, and his conduct will see him never far from peoples thoughts, and not in a positive way.

[PortugueseFrank]

My dear Iberian Peninsular Open and Direct Person, who has stated anything as FACT?? Let's not rush into assuming things that have not been said. Speculation and suspicion require NO proof, merely circumstances and facts which arouse such. Establishment of the truth beyond reasonable doubt certainly places the burden of proof on the accuser, but we are not at that end of the game. Untrustworthiness certainly is justifiable where 'unproven' circumstances lead one to that conclusion and there are certainly plenty of those connected with the subject under discussion. Untrustworthiness is simply a state of having no trust (or lost trust) in a person or something else for various reasons arousing that caution.

If you think that certain questionable 'expenses' cannot be written off as legitimate undertakings, then I am afraid you have a lot to learn about the business and financial world. Please take note that this is a general statement and should not be construed as an attempt to 'prove' wrongdoing in the present case. The FACT that such things happen elsewhere coupled with the seedy goings on at Tannadice, opens the door to speculation and suspicion. Nothing more, nothing less.

Openness is the key towards eradicating unwarranted suspicions and speculation.

By the way, I want my Dundee United back! I have seen sufficient facts and circumstances over the past 3 years or so which boldly underline for myself that such a day is not going to happen anytime soon, if at all. Therein lies my greatest fear. Do I wait for the ultimate 'proof' to recognise it as fact?

I can’t be certain after reading that a couple of times but it sounds as if you’re trying to defend Rumours and Innuendo.

And whilst Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours is a great album, Queen’s Innuendo is, however, shoite.

[RAM1971]

I can’t be certain after reading that a couple of times but it sounds as if you’re trying to defend Rumours and Innuendo.

And whilst Fleetwood Mac’s Rumours is a great album, Queen’s Innuendo is, however, shoite.

My dear Iberian Peninsular etc., it is not a case of 'defending' rumours and innuendo, it is a case of understanding why 'just' suspicion and speculation arise. Nobody is trying to hammer home unproven matters as fact, but goodness me, appreciate that the very senses which you apply to everyday life, before you make a dear purchase, or big decision, etc., apply equally to all matters which we love, including Dundee United FC. Call it instinct or whatever. It is a natural safety guide in life.

Yes Fleetwood Mac's 'Rumours' is a great album. As for Queen...........I'm sorry but they are not for me. It seems we can see eye to eye. Maybe moreso in the future if you become like me and wholly talk 'pish,' rather than the half hearted manner you implied earlier?

[RAM1971]

Jim knew what he'd done had crossed the line and his time was up that's the difference

Thompson will continue to rip the piss and bleed us dry

As usual, a short and to the point offering from Middle Eastern Sanitary Technician who knows just how to condense truth and hard fact into as few words as possible.

[jjaflup22]

not defending thompson cause alot of mistakes have been over the course of 2/3 years but have to wonder if this topic would be even made if we hadnt just lost 3-0 to saints?

never hear anything about him when were doing well but once we lose a game suddenly thompson pops up again haha

Haha, nail on head there mate.

[jjaflup22]

It's no coincidence that we became the media's whipping boys after the Sevco debacle. Thompson put his head above the parapet (rightly) and will never be forgiven for that and the club is guilty by association.