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    wilder saying in interview that 'brooksy's goin nowhere in january' could mean everyone agrees if sold hell stay on loan till
    end of season.that way nobody is talkin with forked tongue !!!! efin hope not but ........

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    For those who struggle with comprehension I will repeat again.

    FOOTBALL incompetence is what I criticise him for.

    Hre's obviously a successful businessman in his sphere of expertise, it's just a shame, and surprising, that he hasn't yet managed to transfer those skills to his hobby.

    Still, all's well that ends well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tomytony View Post
    For those who struggle with comprehension I will repeat again.

    FOOTBALL incompetence is what I criticise him for.

    Hre's obviously a successful businessman in his sphere of expertise, it's just a shame, and surprising, that he hasn't yet managed to transfer those skills to his hobby.

    Still, all's well that ends well.
    ^^ This, exactly.

    Running a football club isn't like running a property empire, or indeed any other business. The idea that a person is successful in one sphere and therefore will automatically be successful in another is flawed and shows a high level of arrogance. There'd be no shame in admitting that he's out of his depth and bringing in advisers who know what they're doing. We might have had a more successful ten years if he'd only done so rather than being full of his own self-importance and trying to leverage the good name of the club to further his business interests.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    ^^ This, exactly.

    Running a football club isn't like running a property empire, or indeed any other business. The idea that a person is successful in one sphere and therefore will automatically be successful in another is flawed and shows a high level of arrogance. There'd be no shame in admitting that he's out of his depth and bringing in advisers who know what they're doing. We might have had a more successful ten years if he'd only done so rather than being full of his own self-importance and trying to leverage the good name of the club to further his business interests.
    Whilst I'm in total agreement, and I've said this before, it's not just McCabes incompetence at running a football club, it's his 'trusted' Lieutenants as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by U-F-O View Post
    Whilst I'm in total agreement, and I've said this before, it's not just McCabes incompetence at running a football club, it's his 'trusted' Lieutenants as well.
    Perhaps we should all "chip-in" and buy it off him UFO - am sure there's enough knowledge and expertise on this site....with TT at thel helm of course

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ayamonteblade View Post
    Perhaps we should all "chip-in" and buy it off him UFO - am sure there's enough knowledge and expertise on this site....with TT at thel helm of course
    Oh my hands straight up to say I would't have a f3rkin clue Aya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    ...We might have had a more successful ten years....

    We might have disappeared in a puff of smoke too...


    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    ... if he'd only done so rather than being full of his own self-importance and trying to leverage the good name of the club to further his business interests...
    I hear this quite often, but after his Chengdu/Fradi thing was dropped, what bit of his activities in the last 10 years constitute 'furthering his business interests at the expense of SUFC', do you feel..?

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    i think he will go next summer but and its a big but with king kevs previous of selling players cheaply if we get big money i think chris is sensible enough to realise we cant hold on to him and providing he gets most of the transfer fee could set us up for a big promotion push next season utb ftp wabaw !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carpe_diem View Post
    ^^ This, exactly.

    Running a football club isn't like running a property empire, or indeed any other business. The idea that a person is successful in one sphere and therefore will automatically be successful in another is flawed and shows a high level of arrogance. There'd be no shame in admitting that he's out of his depth and bringing in advisers who know what they're doing. We might have had a more successful ten years if he'd only done so rather than being full of his own self-importance and trying to leverage the good name of the club to further his business interests.

    You've clearly forgotten the "football men" he brought in, Fat Turry and Trevor Birch. Both much more experienced in football than McCabe. Turry the driving force in the appointment of Red Wine Robbo and his free spending and BIrch who cost us, I believe, £600k a year and helped us plumb the depths despite his high standing in the game. Then there's Basset who wanted a manager to relive the glory days he achieved but playing hoof twenty five to thirty years after it was discredited by good coaches.

    As for furthering his business interests, he was active in China before NW took us back to the PL. Fradi was a land deal, or that was the idea before local interests wanted in. Again, l doubt SUFC were a big name in Budapest at any point.

    While, it's cost us having to watch lower division football for six years, we had a choice. The only person paying for McCabes mistakes is McCabe.


    Easy this running a football club.


    (But l've read most clubs make losses, surely that can't be right?)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holden_C View Post
    You've clearly forgotten the "football men" he brought in, Fat Turry and Trevor Birch. Both much more experienced in football than McCabe. Turkey the driving force in the appointment of Red Wine Robbo and his free spending and BIrch who cost us, I believe, £600k a year and helped us plumb the depths despite his high standing in the game. Then there's Basset who wanted a manager to relive the glory days he achieved but playing hoof twenty five to thirty years after it was discredited by good coaches.


    Easy this running a football club.


    (Which is why most clubs make losses)
    Why is it that anyone who suggests that the club could be run better has 'easy this running a football club' lark levelled at them?

    I know it's not easy. I couldn't do it, but I wouldn't have the arrogance to assume that I could.

    You make a fair point about Robinson and Birch, but again, they were his appointments. Birch had seen some small success at Derby, although he's really an administrator rather than a football chairman, and where did Turry come from? What was his pedigree?

    Also to answer FKB's point, yes - we might have disappeared in a puff of smoke, although evidence from other clubs (Leeds, Pompey, et al) would suggest not. It's only the tiny clubs that tend to disappear - it might have been that we'd have been a more attractive purchase for someone else if we'd have been on our uppers.

    The whole point of getting Robson in was to further the brand, and by extension his own business interests. The fact that his strategy of bringing in a 'name' and then buying or linking with other clubs to build on that brand failed utterly explains a lot about why it's not so publicised now, but you can bet your bottom dollar that when he's extolling the virtues of Scarborough Group the football club gets mentioned as well.

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