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Thread: Are you thick or stupid Darren Moore?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltnshake View Post
    Best squad in the division? I find that a strange statement when I constantly read on this forum
    Johnstone : a poor goalkeeper makes mistakes costs us goals
    Mears: joke signing far to old not good enough.
    Bartley: one of our worst ever signings
    Townsend : not good enough for this division
    Brunt: past it no legs should be nowhere near the 1st team
    Morrison: far to injury prone should never have been given a contract
    Livermore: not good enough shouldn't be in the 1st team
    HRK: a joke of a player not good enough for the 1st team
    Murphy: a poor signing don't know what he adds to the squad.
    Any more.? by my reckoning that's 9 players not good enough to play in this team yet we should be miles clear at the top of the division I would love to see the name of this experienced manager that would have us top of the league but as per usual nobody comes up with any names IMO I have said all along our squad is not as good as some people think and if we finish in the play offs it will have been a good season.
    Well put and can’t but agree salt

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Come on Boingy - 4th place with our squad with many players having played in the Premier League? Barry Fry could have achieved this. I give you that - Moore is a thoroughly decent chap and has probably got players humming to themselves whilst at work!


    From Boxing Day at Home - we have been bloody awful - fact! Not unlucky - bloody awful! Same stupid formation - same stupid passing out from the back - same stupid subs/players in wrong positions. Gayle FFS - even the Newcastle supporters are having a laugh!

    Away from home the record is decent. Have we played great football though apart from Rotherham? We beat a very poor Vile team and shut up shop in the second half, and did our best to throw it away against a poor QPR team - same mistakes we see week in week out!

    I guess you don't trek down the motorway week in week out seeing this garbage Boingy? Yesterday it cost another £100 and hardly one effort on target. Shocking especially as it's no one off - happening almost every home game at the moment..........

    The teams above us have consistently played good football. It does not take an expert to tell anyone why.....

    Very pissed off at the moment and we need to twist if our play off position will be in doubt.
    Just my opinion Baggieal. I respect him and what he's doing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltnshake View Post
    Best squad in the division? I find that a strange statement when I constantly read on this forum
    Johnstone : a poor goalkeeper makes mistakes costs us goals
    Mears: joke signing far to old not good enough.
    Bartley: one of our worst ever signings
    Townsend : not good enough for this division
    Brunt: past it no legs should be nowhere near the 1st team
    Morrison: far to injury prone should never have been given a contract
    Livermore: not good enough shouldn't be in the 1st team
    HRK: a joke of a player not good enough for the 1st team
    Murphy: a poor signing don't know what he adds to the squad.
    Any more.? by my reckoning that's 9 players not good enough to play in this team yet we should be miles clear at the top of the division I would love to see the name of this experienced manager that would have us top of the league but as per usual nobody comes up with any names IMO I have said all along our squad is not as good as some people think and if we finish in the play offs it will have been a good season.

    Perhaps comments are based on the way some players are deployed or the formation!!! Johnstone is compared to Foster who is still one of the best keepers in the Premier League and judged a tad harshly because of this and because of the fannying around at the back, which has not helped many errors - Brunt is still decent and a squad player but sure he would say - he's know CM himself. Who was putting him in this position? HRK tries hard but average at best. Who recruited Bartley, Mears and Murphy of which two of these players are ex pals? Barry is a good player but needs somebody next to him to do the running so who picks the midfield? Who decides on the 4-3-3? Gayle in my eyes is better than Rondon but out wide - who decides this?

    Facts are - we have a better squad than anyone else on paper and more players than anyone else with Premier experience. How these players are deployed in terms of passing it out from the back which they find difficult, formation or selected in strange positions is down to the manager. Everyone was slating the Man Utd players under Jose, but funny how they are now playing fantastically under OGS. Why is this? Perhaps, it's because he's got a good footballing brain, players are playing in the right positions, players are playing to their strengths and players can do, what they are capable of doing.

    On this subject - we are NO Man U - and if we were, then trying to play quality football out from the back might work! Clearly, in our case it does not! Everyone can see this apart from the manager! Even the professional pundits are seeing it!

    Not difficult at home - 4-4-2 ( not Barry or Livermore in the same team ), Gayle in his correct position and stop pissing around with the ball at the back. If we do this with the best squad in the league, then for sure our home form in 2019 would not be relegation form like Ipswich. Simple I can see it - many can see it - many are saying it but why, oh why are there no changes. Will Moore make the change when we have missed out on promotion? Things have been crap since end of December and it's March this coming week

    Should supporters who go week in week out - shut the f uck up and say - "Darren it's been piss poor since Boxing Day but in you we trust until April"?
    Last edited by baggieal; 24-02-2019 at 06:11 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltnshake View Post
    Best squad in the division? I find that a strange statement when I constantly read on this forum
    Johnstone : a poor goalkeeper makes mistakes costs us goals
    Mears: joke signing far to old not good enough.
    Bartley: one of our worst ever signings
    Townsend : not good enough for this division
    Brunt: past it no legs should be nowhere near the 1st team
    Morrison: far to injury prone should never have been given a contract
    Livermore: not good enough shouldn't be in the 1st team
    HRK: a joke of a player not good enough for the 1st team
    Murphy: a poor signing don't know what he adds to the squad.
    Any more.? by my reckoning that's 9 players not good enough to play in this team yet we should be miles clear at the top of the division I would love to see the name of this experienced manager that would have us top of the league but as per usual nobody comes up with any names IMO I have said all along our squad is not as good as some people think and if we finish in the play offs it will have been a good season.
    Bielsa

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    Perhaps comments are based on the way some players are deployed or the formation!!! Johnstone is compared to Foster who is still one of the best keepers in the Premier League and judged a tad harshly because of this and because of the fannying around at the back, which has not helped many errors - Brunt is still decent and a squad player but sure he would say - he's know CM himself. Who was putting him in this position? HRK tries hard but average at best. Who recruited Bartley, Mears and Murphy of which two of these players are ex pals? Barry is a good player but needs somebody next to him to do the running so who picks the midfield? Who decides on the 4-3-3? Gayle in my eyes is better than Rondon but out wide - who decides this?

    Facts are - we have a better squad than anyone else on paper and more players than anyone else with Premier experience. How these players are deployed in terms of passing it out from the back which they find difficult, formation or selected in strange positions is down to the manager. Everyone was slating the Man Utd players under Jose, but funny how they are now playing fantastically under OGS. Why is this? Perhaps, it's because he's got a good footballing brain, players are playing in the right positions, players are playing to their strengths and players can do, what they are capable of doing.

    On this subject - we are NO Man U - and if we were, then trying to play quality football out from the back might work! Clearly, in our case it does not! Everyone can see this apart from the manager! Even the professional pundits are seeing it!

    Not difficult at home - 4-4-2 ( not Barry or Livermore in the same team ), Gayle in his correct position and stop pissing around with the ball at the back. If we do this with the best squad in the league, then for sure our home form in 2019 would not be relegation form like Ipswich. Simple I can see it - many can see it - many are saying it but why, oh why are there no changes. Will Moore make the change when we have missed out on promotion? Things have been crap since end of December and it's March this coming week

    Should supporters who go week in week out - shut the f uck up and say - "Darren it's been piss poor since Boxing Day but in you we trust until April"?
    You have been Johnstones, HRK and Brunts biggest critics yet you now state it is Moore that is at fault not the players you can't have it both ways to suit your argument as far as the best team on paper I would argue Stoke and Villa have better and more expensive squads on paper but games are not played on paper also of our best squad how many times have we had a fully fit squad to chose from.? we have had more than our fare share of injuries and suspensions it says a lot that we have 6 loan players at thr club yet Moore has been able to integrate them into the squad.

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    Moore has come out and said he is considering tweaking the 4-3-3 formation but with the run of games hasn't had a chance, What! Managers with an ounce of tactical awareness change formations / tactics during games, looks like it's not the manager that thick but the players, seems they need drilling over and over to get things right.
    Personally I think Jones is the problem, pity he didn't go to Luton and leave Moore to it, because in the handful of Premier League games Moore in all honesty did a good job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltnshake View Post
    You have been Johnstones, HRK and Brunts biggest critics yet you now state it is Moore that is at fault not the players you can't have it both ways to suit your argument as far as the best team on paper I would argue Stoke and Villa have better and more expensive squads on paper but games are not played on paper also of our best squad how many times have we had a fully fit squad to chose from.? we have had more than our fare share of injuries and suspensions it says a lot that we have 6 loan players at thr club yet Moore has been able to integrate them into the squad.
    I can only comment on a player in the position they are selected! Whilst Brunt is past his best, he's still a decent squad player. To play Brunt at CM is pure stupidity and the majority would agree! The positioning of Johnstone is poor and compared to Foster, he comes no-where near! That said, Johnstone is an average championship keeper and most likely judged a tad unfairly at times, because Moore thinks the players in front of him should play like Barcelona - this could make a pub keeper nervous when clearly the players in front don't have the ability, to do what's asked of them. HRK is not good enough, and should have replaced with better quality.

    Every team has injuries or suspensions, and that's why you have a squad. Should the Leeds fans be crying in their beer because Roofe will not play again - now that's what you call a big loss!!!

    Answer the question - things at home have been relegation form since Boxing Day and same mistakes./formation costing us so should we trust in Darren until April? What about waiting until April 19th against Hull City at home? Did you go to Hull? If you did, you would agree we were better yesterday than at Hull - that takes some feckin doing!

    Perhaps the majority are all wrong but many on the board are saying it - many around me at the ground are saying it, and many who still are pro Big Dave are now saying they are sick to their back teeth of - same old same old - formation - passing it out from the back - midfield set up and Gayle playing out wide.

    So are we saying " our trust is with the nice guy until 19th April" or perhaps at Derby?
    Last edited by baggieal; 24-02-2019 at 06:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BRE259 View Post
    Bielsa
    OK So before the start of this season had you even heard of Bielsa.? I admit I hadn't Leeds are also paying him a lot more than we would be wanting to pay our head coach but he has done well even though some of his methods leave a lot to be desired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    I can only comment on a player in the position they are selected! Whilst Brunt is past his best, he's still a decent squad player. To play Brunt at CM is pure stupidity and the majority would agree! The positioning of Johnstone is poor and compared to Foster, he comes no-where near! That said, Johnstone is an average championship keeper and most likely judged a tad unfairly at times, because Moore thinks the players in front of him should play like Barcelona - this could make a pub keeper nervous when clearly the players in front don't have the ability, to do what's asked of them. HRK is not good enough, and should have replaced with better quality.

    Every team has injuries or suspensions, and that's why you have a squad. Should the Leeds fans be crying in their beer because Roofe will not play again - now that's what you call a big loss!!!

    Answer the question - things at home have been relegation form since Boxing Day and same mistakes./formation costing us so should we trust in Darren until April? What about waiting until April 19th against Hull City at home? Did you go to Hull? If you did, you would agree we were better yesterday than at Hull - that takes some feckin doing!

    Perhaps the majority are all wrong but many on the board are saying it - many around me at the ground are saying it, and many who still are pro Big Dave are now saying they are sick to their back teeth of - same old same old - formation - passing it out from the back - midfield set up and Gayle playing out wide.

    So are we saying " our trust is with the nice guy until 19th April" or perhaps at Derby?
    OK to answer your question to sack Moore in the position we are in would make no sense at all, also nobody around me at the ground is of the same opinion as you but maybe we are busy supporting the team instead of sagging them off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by baggieal View Post
    With such shocking home form, Sheffield U must have been licking their lips at once again a stupid formation 4-3-3. So OK, when we were overrun in midfield - what did Mr intelligent do? f uck all as usual!

    Barry was found out against fast slick players and too slow. Harper ( I am a fan ) decided to have a poor game, and Livermore - what the feck does this man provide? He's absolute ****e and consistently ****e.

    Holgate failed to hardly get a pass to one of our players all night. We fecked about playing the ball out from the defense again - do we never learn!!! Even in injury time with the free kick we lost possession for pissing around with the ball! Does Moore not get it!!!

    Montero looked decent when he came on so begs the question - why did he not come on earlier and why we did not introduce either Field or Johansen or both! I would have subbed Rodriguez and added another midfielder and put Gayle in his natural position - in the CENTRE!!! Does Moore not get it?

    Sorry - I have lost it with Darren Moore! He will cost us promotion so would make the change if we fail to get three points at Leeds!! These performances can not go on and two poor teams such as Vile and QPR was papering over the cracks and we nearly blew it on Tuesday - same old same old yet again!

    Don't think we had one decent chance all game and to be honest Sheffield had about four! That's how poor we were set up - yet again!

    Perhaps somebody should draw a picture to Moore which illustrates why our form at home is relegation in 2019. Does he not get it!!!

    Not a one off! Have Norwich or Leeds played so many consistently poor games - NO!!! Why not? Well - it comes back to tactically astute managers.

    Very angry!!!!
    This is the most enjoyable season I've seen up the Albion for years. And if you don't like it, don't go.

    Its boring coming on here every time we've drawn or lost for the same people to say 'sack the manager'...

    Moore has done a great job in my eyes. And I want a manager who loves the Albion, will play attractive football, will integrate youth players and will do his best. I can't fault Moore on any of those counts.

    This is his first full season of management. Give the guy a break.

    The vast majority of fans support him, just the odd few on here who shout and spew a load of crap, not just football related either!

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