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Thread: Is there any point of a Brexit deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    Your lot won’t allow a “No Deal” Kets!
    Mick, who do you think ‘my lot’ are? There isn’t any political party that I would care to be a member of and when the election comes, I’ll probably have to get pissed to make a voting decision!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wick5y View Post
    The people are the sovereign power not parliament
    Wick5y......I like the cut of your gib!

    Not diatribe....no “cut and paste” b o l l o x.

    Just straight to the point.

    Excellent stuff sir......very well played!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kettering_baggie View Post
    Mick, who do you think ‘my lot’ are? There isn’t any political party that I would care to be a member of and when the election comes, I’ll probably have to get pissed to make a voting decision!
    The “Remain” faction Kets of EVERY party.

    I wasn’t suggesting your were a Liberal mate....God forbid 😆

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    Lol, what is this guy on? let me guess a huge dose of Guardian. (123)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    It makes me wonder if the DUP are a dinosaur and at risk of being swamped by a newer more modern Unionist party Dubs?
    In 1971 Ian Pasiely formed the DUP......and they were seen very much as an extremist unionist party.
    After the ceasefire...they held out against any deal with Sinn Fein unlike the UUP which was the main unionist party for the entire life of N Ireland. The DUP opposed the Agreement in the Good Friday Agreement referendum, in which the Agreement was approved with 71.1% of the electorate in favour. Many unionist agreed with their policy of no power sharing with the Sinn Fein...but eventually big Ian realized the time was right.......

    The truth is Mick...nobody really knows...BREXIT has polarized families and communities as well as political parties in N.Ireland.
    The DUP was born out of the troubles....and may very well not be looking at anything other then been British......but business and youth may see it differently....Been European suits a lot of people in the North.....it cuts through sectarianism.. But change is coming......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbag View Post
    In 1971 Ian Pasiely formed the DUP......and they were seen very much as an extremist unionist party.
    After the ceasefire...they held out against any deal with Sinn Fein unlike the UUP which was the main unionist party for the entire life of N Ireland. The DUP opposed the Agreement in the Good Friday Agreement referendum, in which the Agreement was approved with 71.1% of the electorate in favour. Many unionist agreed with their policy of no power sharing with the Sinn Fein...but eventually big Ian realized the time was right.......

    The truth is Mick...nobody really knows...BREXIT has polarized families and communities as well as political parties in N.Ireland.
    The DUP was born out of the troubles....and may very well not be looking at anything other then been British......but business and youth may see it differently....Been European suits a lot of people in the North.....it cuts through sectarianism.. But change is coming......
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyhL0ioST_U

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    Quote Originally Posted by soulman101 View Post
    Ah Loyd....I love this song and singer...thanks for this.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dubbag View Post
    Ah Loyd....I love this song and singer...thanks for this.....
    Glad you liked it, lots of great version from Sam Cooke original . When you said change is going to, i was jamming along with Otis.

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    Small point of order taken whilst skim reading yet another Brexit thread. Not something I do on a regular or forensic basis and my point of order is not something I'm going to get in a twist over. I've read mention of our constitution. The UK doesn't have a formal constitution. We have an abstract gathering of laws and judgements which we draw from. Similar to laws and judgements themselves our abstract changes over time. Granted we have conventions which are influenced by such fluctuations; but we do not have an actual constitution. Those suggesting otherwise lay themselves open to claims of being ill informed, lackadaisical or disingenuous. Far too many big words for me at this time of the morning, I'm off to bed. Night all .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Albionic68 View Post
    Small point of order taken whilst skim reading yet another Brexit thread. Not something I do on a regular or forensic basis and my point of order is not something I'm going to get in a twist over. I've read mention of our constitution. The UK doesn't have a formal constitution. We have an abstract gathering of laws and judgements which we draw from. Similar to laws and judgements themselves our abstract changes over time. Granted we have conventions which are influenced by such fluctuations; but we do not have an actual constitution. Those suggesting otherwise lay themselves open to claims of being ill informed, lackadaisical or disingenuous. Far too many big words for me at this time of the morning, I'm off to bed. Night all .
    We have a constitution, but its an unwritten constitution. Built up over hundreds of years of court cases, statutes and conventions.

    The first rule of our unwritten constitution is that Parliament is sovereign. Parliament are the highest legislative body in the country.

    Of course we vote MPs into Parliament, but there are not any group of individuals who have a higher legal authority than Parliament. So unless we change our constitution, Parliament is sovereign, not the people.

    Its not an MPs job to represent just the people who voted for them, but all of their constituents - including those who voted against them and ones who were ineligible to vote, such as children. Basically, MPs in Parliament represent everyone - the whole UK population, let's call it around 65m people. So its not just the 17m who voted for Brexit they should be representing, its the other 48m people who didn't vote for it as well.

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