resurgence of trade unions?

[Mudskipper]

I think having someone in your corner surely can only be a good thing.?
Yip there are as many Bad union Reps as poor bosses who don’t know how do deal with staff conflict situations., that said there very many good bosses out there and very conscientious Union Reps

In my opinion most the things In the workplace that we today take for granted were won by Unions on our behalf.

That the Tories would love to see the back of unions should be reason enough by itself to keep them.

By all means though have a modern Union approach reflecting the working environment today and not what it was 50 years ago

Agree that some people need others looking out for them and I think that’s right and proper.
Tories would have no union representation and that’s downright dangerous ,but they have to modernise also the reps I work with are bordering on militant at times.

HSAW 1974 is widely regarded as the most concise piece of legislation that we live by today ,it’s very well written by a trade unionist at the time that I think has only had one change in fifty years(dropped asbestos to a stand alone issue)it even covers the wee ****e stealing from your garden shed to make sure they don’t get hurt...!! remember when people used to put broken glass on top of walls to stop you climbing over..leaving yourself wide open today.

Interesting that Lord Robens became more a Tory in later life....🤔

[deecom]

i remember in the seventies working in the north of england,hundreds of companies had blacklists of thousands of workers who had gone on strike, or had been union reps at some point.
thats the sort of tactics the workers were up against, and it took years and years for this disgrace to be exposed.

remember my mate in MANCHESTER, (SPARKIE} could not get a job anywhere, even as far as the midlands, because he was on the blacklist.
finally the union got him a job, in the boatyard in DUNDEE .IT got worse in the eighties when thatcher was prime minister, and the fight against the unions became political.
the police were stopping cars on the motorways at random because four men were in the car and police thought they may be going to disputes for picket duty.
people here will remember the TIMEX DISPUTE in Dundee.
shaded is correct, people take for granted, shorter working weeks,sick pay. paid holidays, maternity leave, P.P.E. ETC.
Many people had to make sacrifices to achieve these conditions of employment.

[Biffo_the_Bear]

I just heard Ian Duncan Smith on the radio saying the teachers unions should stop ‘messing about’ and get the teachers back to work nothing about any risks to teachers or bairns health just get back to work, having c@nts like him in government is surely enough to remind anyone how much we need union representation.

[Returnofrros]

I just heard Ian Duncan Smith on the radio saying the teachers unions should stop ‘messing about’ and get the teachers back to work nothing about any risks to teachers or bairns health just get back to work, having c@nts like him in government is surely enough to remind anyone how much we need union representation.

Last time I looked there was 12 deaths of people with Covid under the age of 19.....not of covid with Covid.

Teachers are only 2nd in the holy trinity of occupations because of the National Covid Service and they do fanny a boot......Some of the ****e taught in schools these days is beyond belief.

I wonder if teachers are going to B&Q, queuing at Kentucky, getting their mail and food delivered and still getting their bins emptied.

There jobs will still be there at the end of this, they know it, there union knows it but unfortunately the public can't see the woods for the trees.

[Biffo_the_Bear]

No really what I was getting at rros my main point was Duncan Smith didn’t have a solution to the teachers fears his only thing was that the unions are messing about just get back to work and as long as their are his ilk around we will always need unions, I’ll leave the covid 19 stuff to yourself bud

[Mudskipper]

No really what I was getting at rros my main point was Duncan Smith didn’t have a solution to the teachers fears his only thing was that the unions are messing about just get back to work and as long as their are his ilk around we will always need unions, I’ll leave the covid 19 stuff to yourself bud

IDS is proper old school Tory ,the modern ones have a soft smooth veneer but are the same underneath,he doesn’t give 2 f##ks and says what he likes...

[noahrab]

IDS is proper old school Tory ,the modern ones have a soft smooth veneer but are the same underneath,he doesn’t give 2 f##ks and says what he likes...

Much prefer a politician who says what they think to give you a glimpse of what they are really like than ones who try and dance round you with glib words bordering on gobbledygook. They are the worst.

Biggest culprits are the SNP.

[Returnofrros]

No really what I was getting at rros my main point was Duncan Smith didn’t have a solution to the teachers fears his only thing was that the unions are messing about just get back to work and as long as their are his ilk around we will always need unions, I’ll leave the covid 19 stuff to yourself bud

Ok.

It just comes across to me as like the most powerful unions come up with reasons not to as opposed to.

I'd suggest that if teachers were on say 50% of pay then there wouldn't be so much intransigence from the union and more working with the govt to find a balanced solution.

I honestly do not like where this country may end up.

I don't think many people will if the train ends up at the destination I think it will.

I Ken my views will never be popular on here (well mibbe the anti dab stuff) but it's how I see it.

[Biffo_the_Bear]

Wasn’t having a dig about the covid but your anti dab stuff will always be popular 😁 and I actually agree with quite a bit of your covid stuff although most of the stuff regarding the recession and money is obviously your game and most of it goes over my head

[Returnofrros]

Wasn’t having a dig about the covid but your anti dab stuff will always be popular 😁 and I actually agree with quite a bit of your covid stuff although most of the stuff regarding the recession and money is obviously your game and most of it goes over my head

Lol, it's no really my game I just keep talking till folk submit or **** off. 😁

I do like reading articles and books though from folk who do know what they are talking a boot on financial stuff.

See if Jdfc brought oot a book on postcodes I'd read it, nothing like listening to an expert😉