Dominic Cummings

[whitestomper45]

Blimey we're quoting Ben Franklin the slave owner who said all people are created equal....


In this country we get the government we deserve, and the one the majority chooses - with all its faults (and there's an argument for a version of proportional representation to allow more voices into government), we're a country that hasn't descended into anarchy ever, and fought alone with the great help of the then Empire nations for 3 years in the world's major war on its behalf against the greatest evil in the history of mankind.

I'm afraid that, for me, the great French contribution to modern history founders on the Vichy regime and the opportunistic and collaborative deportation of hundreds of thousands of Jews and other 'undesirables' from its towns and cities, alongside a strangely comfortable wartime existence for those left behind, on the whole. It's a beautiful place with great food and wine, and some lovely people, but please don't make France any kind of template or guide as to how Britain should be or what we should learn from. Ethnic minority groups in Paris, Marseille and Lille would, i'm sure, have a lot to say about liberty, equality and fraternity in the modern France.

Fought alone with the great help of the then Empire Nations for 3 years against the greatest evil ever????? Bit of a simplistic view. Exactly how did Britain build an Empire in the first place? Have you ever checked the nationalities of those who served and died for the British Army? What about resistance fighters and exiled governments... including the Free French Forces....anyway back to football soon hopefully

[Jezleeds]

Fought alone with the great help of the then Empire Nations for 3 years against the greatest evil ever????? Bit of a simplistic view. Exactly how did Britain build an Empire in the first place? Have you ever checked the nationalities of those who served and died for the British Army? What about resistance fighters and exiled governments... including the Free French Forces....anyway back to football soon hopefully

I totally agree on how we built the Empire - a disgrace. I didn't say the Empire was good, just that the vast majority of the people who fought during those three years of WW2 were from that group - plus groups of escaped Poles, Jews from Europe, the Free French etc.

[leedsutdman]

I had problems with my vision so I went out in the car to see if I was okay to drive...... Advisor to the blonde muppet! We have more to worry about than covid 19 killing the old and unhealthy I'm afraid.

[WTF11]

Blimey we're quoting Ben Franklin the slave owner who said all people are created equal, and Switzerland, the place where they serve ***ist Arab men who push in in front of (non-Arab) women already being served', to quote my own experience several times with my wife in Geneva, and where FIFA was allowed grace and favour for decades to corruptly go about it's dubious business.

More to the point made previously about the wonders of Swiss democracy, because of the system of referenda being used for direct decision making, those with vested interest monopolise the choice of referendum. Hence why men in Switzerland didn't vote for a referendum to allow women to vote in elections until 1971.

Hardly a great example of how things should be.

In this country we get the government we deserve, and the one the majority chooses - with all its faults (and there's an argument for a version of proportional representation to allow more voices into government), we're a country that hasn't descended into anarchy ever, and fought alone with the great help of the then Empire nations for 3 years in the world's major war on its behalf against the greatest evil in the history of mankind.

I'm afraid that, for me, the great French contribution to modern history founders on the Vichy regime and the opportunistic and collaborative deportation of hundreds of thousands of Jews and other 'undesirables' from its towns and cities, alongside a strangely comfortable wartime existence for those left behind, on the whole. It's a beautiful place with great food and wine, and some lovely people, but please don't make France any kind of template or guide as to how Britain should be or what we should learn from. Ethnic minority groups in Paris, Marseille and Lille would, i'm sure, have a lot to say about liberty, equality and fraternity in the modern France.

Every country has its good and bad, us very much included. Bashing Britain completely and those who voted to leave the EU as if there is something wrong with them for having a different opinion to yours about the EU doesn't show great socialist principles of tolerance and diversity.

With you Jez, us against world. Make it so (and f00k everyone who gets in my way)

[WTF11]

With you Jez, us against world. Make it so (and f00k everyone who gets in my way)

France is a lovely country if only it wasn't populated by the French!

[asturianblanco]

The Swiss economic miracle!( built on the Nazi´s stolen loot), and all Arab men are NOT the same?? laughable, some on here should stick to talking about LUFC, as if seems politics easily confuses the feeble minded!

[MrsORichSenior]

The Swiss economic miracle!( built on the Nazi´s stolen loot), and all Arab men are NOT the same?? laughable, some on here should stick to talking about LUFC, as if seems politics easily confuses the feeble minded!

Spain & politics ...................



Front pages from around the world showed images of police violence at polling stations in Catalonia - Why ?
Government historical reasoning by any chance.

Nissan out of Barcelona today not great either for a wonderful united country if your from Catalonia working there.

Thank you Spain for Pablo & Victor - The Northern power base of Leeds is eternally grateful even 'tho Boris doesn't want 'em here ........ bloody migrant workers eh.

Stay safe & have a nice day.
MOT

[Ozwhites]

Footy can't come quick enough.....

[spaldy]

Agree with Oz on Footy but...

it's utterly ridiculous to judge any country or person for that matter for things that happened centuries ago. it's all interconnected.

Without the French ideals of the 17th century or the British aristocrats such as Franklin the US does not exist. Fast Forward 200 years and without the US, Europe is speaking German, Japanese or Russian.

If the world does not stick together we'll all be speaking Mandarin. They aren't going away and they aren't stopping until they win. Hong Kong and Taiwan are the modern day versions of the Sudetenland. I suspect we'll pass on action just like we did in 1939.

Just the reality of power and evil that some rulers elect upon themselves.... usually with the help of some self serving profiteers. Many of our corporations have sold their souls for quick profits and giving up of intellectual and countries secrets that harm the majority of the citizens.

Football is not much different. Some players and teams really believe in team before self but many only look out for themselves.

Frankly comments on the "feeble minded" generally reflect someone that just wants you to do whatever you are told by your ruler rather than actually looking at the level of complexity that is difficult for any single person to understand.

[Billyni]

I thought they just made Army knives and cuckoo clocks.