Face Masks not stopping the spread of Coronavirus.

[Returnofrros]

The views that it is all about controlling the population seem to me to be based on truth. What worries me is that the fear is that this is the start of a completely different way of life for us. Somehow the tyranny of being made to wear a face covering is the beginning of a new wave of politics in Britain.
The basis of our economy is trade and wealth creation. Is this to change to the totalitarian models where massive state power is used to enforce policies that diminish our civil liberties and rights?

It's a virus we are fighting and I think that getting back to work is the most important objective. How we do that whilst bearing down on the virus is what we need to focus on.

There's no US b cram.....if those that want to wander about in masks, hide away in their house and bring the economy to it's knees......crack on.....I'm No joining in.

I'm going to live my life exactly as I did before this absolute guff started.

More people do it the less it's a new normal and more normal.

[BCram]

I think it is possible to follow government guidelines without losing everything. I agree that we need people back to work and I think there should be more than social isolating as the only way to cope with the virus. Your personal freedom might be the cause of a severe problem for a friend. Surely you have modified your behaviour to try to keep golfing chums safe?
I agree that getting back to work and restarting our economy is *****. Getting health services back to normal is also important. GP's can't see patients, hospital visits for all sorts of treatments have been stopped. These actions will have had serious consequences for many many people.

[islaydarkblue]

I think it is possible to follow government guidelines without losing everything. I agree that we need people back to work and I think there should be more than social isolating as the only way to cope with the virus. Your personal freedom might be the cause of a severe problem for a friend. Surely you have modified your behaviour to try to keep golfing chums safe?
I agree that getting back to work and restarting our economy is *****. Getting health services back to normal is also important. GP's can't see patients, hospital visits for all sorts of treatments have been stopped. These actions will have had serious consequences for many many people.

I do not understand why GP’s cannot see their patients as dentists are now able to treat their patients.
Pirior to having my Covid-19 test at Kings Cross Hospital I was examined by a GP who discovered that I was suffering from a slight chest infection.
That was over two months ago and we are now supposed to be in Phase 3 of exiting the lockdown.
My wife and I are very concerned that by speaking to a GP over the phone they could be missing something more serious.
People could be in the very early stages of cancer yet it is missed because GP’s can only speak to their patients by phone.

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I do not understand why GP’s cannot see their patients as dentists are now able to treat their patients.

I know a dentist, she's allowed to do a maximum of four fillings a day and only if they're emergencies. She isn't being paid for them either and is on basic salary.

[Returnofrros]

The SNP controlled Scottish Government are running out of new policies to introduce hence the reason that they are keen in their Hate Crime legislation becoming law.
The public consultation period has closed but there is no point giving your views as they will only accept views are in favour of the legislation.
I submitted my views for a previous public consultation but the SNP controlled Scottish Government only published the views of the 3.5% of people in favour of their bill.
Everyone else’s views including mine were disregarded.
Nicola of course has a hidden agenda for wanting this Hate Crime Bill to become law as soon as possible especially where ***uality is concerned.

I went to a public consultation meeting at Stirling uni around a year ago 're this legislation.

I think there was around 60 people in groups of 10.

Loads of yap a few exercises and questions and a bit of blarney from a couple of civil servants.

It was everything I thought it would be......everyone is disadvantaged except hetro***ual middle aged males.

If you ever get the chance to go to one I would it confirmed to me how intolerant progressive liberals are of any socially conservative views.

And its the biggest percentage of people I have seen in the same room with purple/green/blue hair.😁

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And its the biggest percentage of people I have seen in the same room with purple/green/blue hair.��

You weren't at The Clash gig at The Caird Hall in 1980 then?

[islaydarkblue]

I went to a public consultation meeting at Stirling uni around a year ago 're this legislation.

I think there was around 60 people in groups of 10.

Loads of yap a few exercises and questions and a bit of blarney from a couple of civil servants.


It was everything I thought it would be......everyone is disadvantaged except hetro***ual middle aged males.

If you ever get the chance to go to one I would it confirmed to me how intolerant progressive liberals are of any socially conservative views.

And its the biggest percentage of people I have seen in the same room with purple/green/blue hair.��

It is a wonder that the room was not full of SNP ‘trusties’ wearing kilts.

[Returnofrros]

I think it is possible to follow government guidelines without losing everything. I agree that we need people back to work and I think there should be more than social isolating as the only way to cope with the virus. Your personal freedom might be the cause of a severe problem for a friend. Surely you have modified your behaviour to try to keep golfing chums safe?
I agree that getting back to work and restarting our economy is *****. Getting health services back to normal is also important. GP's can't see patients, hospital visits for all sorts of treatments have been stopped. These actions will have had serious consequences for many many people.

The only way an acquaintance would get anything from me is if THEY were prepared to take a small risk and socialise.

I'm not gonna impose myself on anyone who dosent want to mix.....so my personal freedom has no cost to them.

They don't do flag pole touching and don't shake hands....something I was never keen on anyway.....apart from that nothing I can think of.

Was playing in the senior pairs a week ago with a 77 year old and 80 year old, quite happy to sit down inside and have a shandy and a meal.....maskless.....one had had throat cancer the other "No bad but chesty"......the 77 year old said "we cud spend our last two or three years hiding or take a wee risk"....sensible opinion.

What the NHS has done and still doing is nothing short of neglect imho. The decision makers have a lot to answer for.

[Returnofrros]

You weren't at The Clash gig at The Caird Hall in 1980 then?

No, don't do music......too many lefties😁

[noahrab]

I do not understand why GP’s cannot see their patients as dentists are now able to treat their patients.
Pirior to having my Covid-19 test at Kings Cross Hospital I was examined by a GP who discovered that I was suffering from a slight chest infection.
That was over two months ago and we are now supposed to be in Phase 3 of exiting the lockdown.
My wife and I are very concerned that by speaking to a GP over the phone they could be missing something more serious.
People could be in the very early stages of cancer yet it is missed because GP’s can only speak to their patients by phone.

Being a GP in now a ‘boabys joab’.