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    Quote Originally Posted by noahrab View Post
    he can type texts though.
    lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudskipper View Post
    He never took it either but the same accountant said to him the system is being raped by the Asian community in the west through nail bars that make next to no profit ,take the loan and then wind them up ,now I don’t know how these loans actually work or if this is even possible just saying....🤔
    It is.

    East European gangs at it as well.

    Initial estimates reckon 25% of loans are fraud.

    How to be a covid millionaire.....get Tarrant back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mudskipper View Post
    He never took it either but the same accountant said to him the system is being raped by the Asian community in the west through nail bars that make next to no profit ,take the loan and then wind them up ,now I don’t know how these loans actually work or if this is even possible just saying....🤔
    26 billion in fraudulent loans.

    60% of loans will never be repaid.

    Estimate.

    This is NOT a prediction.😁

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    26 billion in fraudulent loans.

    60% of loans will never be repaid.

    Estimate.

    This is NOT a prediction.��
    I have read that there is no interest charged on the first year of a Bounce Back loan. The interest rate then
    increases to 2.5% per annum and businesses have ten years to repay the loan.
    The problem arose because businesses complained that their bank was taking too long
    to process their loan application because the bank staff were carrying out due diligence.
    The Government under pressure from MPs and MSPs told the banks to get a move on
    giving out these loans and the rules for the checking of the Bounce Back business loan applications were greatly reduced.
    The fraudsters moved in thanks to this stupid relaxation of the rules for bank lending.
    The rules for bank lending had been greatly tightened up after the 2008 banking crisis but thanks to these
    stupid politicians’ complaints the U.K. taxpayers are now saddled with an estimated loss
    of £26 billion.
    As a result of the attempted fraud on my bank account and the series of fraudulent standing orders debited
    to my father’s bank account in my opinion the selling of customers details for these fraudulent loans applications lies ‘fairly
    and squarely’ with crooked staff working in bank service centres.
    This is the problem of taking the ‘back office work’ out of the branches and moving it to large bank service
    centres coupled with the banks employing agency firms to advertise and select staff to work in these
    service centres.
    Gone are the days when working in a bank was a profession. It is now just a job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I have read that there is no interest charged on the first year of a Bounce Back loan. The interest rate then
    increases to 2.5% per annum and businesses have ten years to repay the loan.
    The problem arose because businesses complained that their bank was taking too long
    to process their loan application because the bank staff were carrying out due diligence.
    The Government under pressure from MPs and MSPs told the banks to get a move on
    giving out these loans and the rules for the checking of the Bounce Back business loan applications were greatly reduced.
    The fraudsters moved in thanks to this stupid relaxation of the rules for bank lending.
    The rules for bank lending had been greatly tightened up after the 2008 banking crisis but thanks to these
    stupid politicians’ complaints the U.K. taxpayers are now saddled with an estimated loss
    of £26 billion.
    As a result of the attempted fraud on my bank account and the series of fraudulent standing orders debited
    to my father’s bank account in my opinion the selling of customers details for these fraudulent loans applications lies ‘fairly
    and squarely’ with crooked staff working in bank service centres.
    This is the problem of taking the ‘back office work’ out of the branches and moving it to large bank service
    centres coupled with the banks employing agency firms to advertise and select staff to work in these
    service centres.
    Gone are the days when working in a bank was a profession. It is now just a job.
    Worked in the bank for 5 and a bit years.

    I just went for the dosh Islay, knew they were pretty corrupt organisation but went to do 2 years then get out, did 5 and a bit as I say in a boiler house type environment.

    I've often wondered if the image of the bowler hat pin stripe pillar of the community banker ever existed or it was a myth.

    All I saw was spivs, shysters and higher management who were as thick as two short planks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    Worked in the bank for 5 and a bit years.

    I just went for the dosh Islay, knew they were pretty corrupt organisation but went to do 2 years then get out, did 5 and a bit as I say in a boiler house type environment.

    I've often wondered if the image of the bowler hat pin stripe pillar of the community banker ever existed or it was a myth.

    All I saw was spivs, shysters and higher management who were as thick as two short planks.
    When I started work with the Bank of Scptland the manager of the Head Office branch of the Royal Bank, 3 High Street Dundee used wear a bowler hat when walking to his work.
    All the Male members of staff wore a dark suit which was usually pin striped. That was back in the days when banking was a profession and a job for life. Bank staff knew all their customers.
    Now working in a bank is just a job which for a spell was target driven. I do not know if that is still the case.
    I remember the staff in the Bank of Scotland branch in Bowmore, Islay trying to persuade myself and my wife to change our bank account onto online banking.
    I refused and told them that they were digging their own grave.
    The Bank of Scotland branch in Bowmore is now a sub office of the Campbeltown branch and bank branches have been closed throughout the whole of the U.K.
    That being said there back in the 1970’s and 1980’s were too many bank branches as a result of mergers with the management of the banks frightened to close branches in case of a public and union backlash.
    Now there are too few branches but people can no use their local post offices for a lot of their banking requirements. Even businesses can use their local post office.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    When I started work with the Bank of Scptland the manager of the Head Office branch of the Royal Bank, 3 High Street Dundee used wear a bowler hat when walking to his work.
    All the Male members of staff wore a dark suit which was usually pin striped. That was back in the days when banking was a profession and a job for life. Bank staff knew all their customers.
    Now working in a bank is just a job which for a spell was target driven. I do not know if that is still the case.
    I remember the staff in the Bank of Scotland branch in Bowmore, Islay trying to persuade myself and my wife to change our bank account onto online banking.
    I refused and told them that they were digging their own grave.
    The Bank of Scotland branch in Bowmore is now a sub office of the Campbeltown branch and bank branches have been closed throughout the whole of the U.K.
    That being said there back in the 1970’s and 1980’s were too many bank branches as a result of mergers with the management of the banks frightened to close branches in case of a public and union backlash.
    Now there are too few branches but people can no use their local post offices for a lot of their banking requirements. Even businesses can use their local post office.
    I do all my banking online and haven't entered any bank branch in years.

    200% improvement on the old days of queuing to do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by islaydarkblue View Post
    I have read that there is no interest charged on the first year of a Bounce Back loan. The interest rate then
    increases to 2.5% per annum and businesses have ten years to repay the loan.
    The problem arose because businesses complained that their bank was taking too long
    to process their loan application because the bank staff were carrying out due diligence.
    The Government under pressure from MPs and MSPs told the banks to get a move on
    giving out these loans and the rules for the checking of the Bounce Back business loan applications were greatly reduced.
    The fraudsters moved in thanks to this stupid relaxation of the rules for bank lending.
    The rules for bank lending had been greatly tightened up after the 2008 banking crisis but thanks to these
    stupid politicians’ complaints the U.K. taxpayers are now saddled with an estimated loss
    of £26 billion.
    As a result of the attempted fraud on my bank account and the series of fraudulent standing orders debited
    to my father’s bank account in my opinion the selling of customers details for these fraudulent loans applications lies ‘fairly
    and squarely’ with crooked staff working in bank service centres.
    This is the problem of taking the ‘back office work’ out of the branches and moving it to large bank service
    centres coupled with the banks employing agency firms to advertise and select staff to work in these
    service centres.
    Gone are the days when working in a bank was a profession. It is now just a job.
    I used to laugh (to myself) at the bank "staff" running around signing up 70 and 80 year olds to online banking.

    A lot of these customers would tell them they didn't have a computer or e mail but the "staff" were encouraged to set them up with an e mail address.

    Often wonder how all this will work out as people get I'll forget passwords and don't have POA in place.....must be a nightmare for the families.

    I worked in the most notorious bank for targets, the bank that liked to say "**** the customer get the buisness" ......you'll know the one.

    I still to this day won't do online banking. Funny.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Returnofrros View Post
    I used to laugh (to myself) at the bank "staff" running around signing up 70 and 80 year olds to online banking.

    A lot of these customers would tell them they didn't have a computer or e mail but the "staff" were encouraged to set them up with an e mail address.

    Often wonder how all this will work out as people get I'll forget passwords and don't have POA in place.....must be a nightmare for the families.

    I worked in the most notorious bank for targets, the bank that liked to say "**** the customer get the buisness" ......you'll know the one.

    I still to this day won't do online banking. Funny.
    I assume that you worked for the TSB.
    My next door neighbour in Dundee W as in her 70’s and had been a TSB (previously Dundee Savings Bank) customer all her days,
    One day she told me that she had been in her local,TSB branch to ask the balance of her account.
    She was asked to take a seat and by the time she had left her branch a member of staff had sold her a policy which contained death cover.,
    I told her that in my opinion it was ridiculous that a member of staff in her TSB bank sold her a policy with death cover when all she wanted to know was the balance of her account.
    She asked me if I could find out what her policy was worth. I took a note of the name and number of units purchased.
    I checked them in the Financial Times which the branch I worked in received weekly.
    I then had to infirm my next door neighbour that the value of her policy had dropped in value by several hundred pounds. There was a difference in price between the Sell and Buy price of the units. The TSB would also receive commission on the sale of this policy.
    N my opinion this was another form of mis-selling and the management of the TSB should have been ‘hauled over the coals’ for actively encouraging their staff to sell these unsuitable policies to their customers.
    Unfortunately my neighbour will never receive compensation as she sadly passed away almost thirty years ago.

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    I have just recently started online banking, eventually giving in to family pressure.
    My bank was always trying to persuade me to go online, my answer was always the same, it's not secure, can you give me a guarantee ?
    Which they could'nt.
    When I worked offshore, the lad I was working with had £12k taken out of his account, he did get it back eventually, but it took a while.
    Same in supermarkets, when there is a large queue, I always complain to the manager about unmanned check-outs.
    Their option is always the same ,use the self service, which I refuse to use as I tell them you are doing yourself out of a job.

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