I love modern football

[sinkov]

I only try to constantly remind everyone on the true values of socialism Supersub6.

But which values of socialism are the true values BT, those of Corbyn or Starmer, or Blair perhaps ? Maybe the 20 million ghosts of those who died in Stalin's gulags would have an altogether different view of socialist values ? Maybe the 20 million who died in Mao's cultural revolution would have another view again about socialist values. ? But we'll never know will we, and I don't want to find out the hard way, I think Sir Nigel will get my little X on the ballot paper next time. Safest bet imo.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

But which values of socialism are the true values BT, those of Corbyn or Starmer, or Blair perhaps ? Maybe the 20 million ghosts of those who died in Stalin's gulags would have an altogether different view of socialist values ? Maybe the 20 million who died in Mao's cultural revolution would have another view again about socialist values. ? But we'll never know will we, and I don't want to find out the hard way, I think Sir Nigel will get my little X on the ballot paper next time. Safest bet imo.

Rabid Communism and/or Rabid Capitalism is a "No-No-" sinkov.

I quite like the centre left politics demonstrated daily by the New Zealand Prime Minister, Jacinda Ardern.

Just what we need here, but she does not face the same sort of $hit Corbyn had to put up with...

[1959_60]

It was always the case super. When Burnley were competing for trophies in the 60's many teams used to set their stall out to defend and frustrate.

I think the real measure of how exciting games are is the average number of goals per match.

here is a list of the average number of goals in each of the Prem League seasons. The lowest was in 2006-07 at 2.45 per game. The average per season seems to be around 2.60.
https://www.myfootballfacts.com/prem...al_statistics/

I couldn't find info for seasons before this, so I worked out the average goals per game in the 1969-70 season ( 50 years ago).
The average was 2.38 - lower that in any Prem season.

We certainly look back on the good old days with rose tinted specs, there were plenty of dire games then. But we remember these days fondly because the Clarets were a major force.

Going back further, during our "iron curtain" years, we were promoted in 46-47 with an average number of goals per game of 2.29.
The following season (47-48) we finished third in Division One with an average of 2.36 goals per game.

All these seasons produced less goals per game than the lowest ever in any Premier League season.

[Supersub6]

It was always the case super. When Burnley were competing for trophies in the 60's many teams used to set their stall out to defend and frustrate.

I think the real measure of how exciting games are is the average number of goals per match.

here is a list of the average number of goals in each of the Prem League seasons. The lowest was in 2006-07 at 2.45 per game. The average per season seems to be around 2.60.
https://www.myfootballfacts.com/prem...al_statistics/

I couldn't find info for seasons before this, so I worked out the average goals per game in the 1969-70 season ( 50 years ago).
The average was 2.38 - lower that in any Prem season.

We certainly look back on the good old days with rose tinted specs, there were plenty of dire games then. But we remember these days fondly because the Clarets were a major force.

Going back further, during our "iron curtain" years, we were promoted in 46-47 with an average number of goals per game of 2.29.
The following season (47-48) we finished third in Division One with an average of 2.36 goals per game.

All these seasons produced less goals per game than the lowest ever in any Premier League season.

Sorry 59_60 but I have to take you to task about these figures!
I started watching the Clarets in the 1952/3 season ---our first home game was v Middlesbrough and we lost 0-1.
That season the First Division averaged 3.21 goals per game. The following seasons the averages were: 3.51: 3.40: 3.31: 3.47: 3.72: 3.64: and then 1959/60 was 3.49 followed by 3.73 and 3.42: --all consistently much higher than the average number of goals in any Premier League seasons.

I also note you figures for our promotion season 1946/7, however, the average was 3.35 goals per game that season and the following season when we finished 3rd in Division One there was an average of 2.90 goals per game.
All these figure compare more than favourably with the Premier League in any season and without Claret tinted specs.
Football was far better to watch in those days with lots of goals, plenty of tackles and played by players who wanted to play and compete with each other because they really enjoyed the game and didn't need a wheelbarrow to take their wages home!

[sinkov]

We certainly look back on the good old days with rose tinted specs, there were plenty of dire games then. But we remember these days fondly because the Clarets were a major force.

I do remember those days fondly 59, and I thought the football was far more exciting and entertaining back then, but maybe it was my rose tinted specs, so I've just had a look at the scores in my first two full seasons watching Burnley, 1959/60 and 60/61. In 84 D1 games over the two seasons there were just three goalless draws, amongst the scores were.

Leeds 2 Burnley 3
Burnley 5 Everton 2
Rovers 3 Burnley 2
Burnley 4 City 3
Burnley 8 Forest 0
Arsenal 2 Burnley 4
WHU 2 Burnley 5
Burnley 3 Arsenal 2
Wolves 6 Burnley 1
Burnley 3 Sheffield Wed 3
Burnley 3 Arsenal 2
Burnley 5 PNE 0
PNE 2 Burnley 3
Burnley 5 Fulham 0
Rovers 1 Burnley 4
Burnley 5 United 3
Chelsea 2 Burnley 6
(The 4 games above were consecutive, 20 league goals in 4 games, two days after the Chelsea game we won 4-0 at Cardiff in the League Cup, 24 goals in 5 games in 23 days in October 1960)
Burnley 5 Wolves 3
Bolton 3 Burnley 5
Spurs 4 Burnley 4
Burnley 3 Leicester 2
Arsenal 2 Burnley 5
Burnley 5 Newcastle 3
Burnley 3 Sheffield Wednesday 4
Burnley 4 Chelsea 4
Burnley 4 Forest 1
United 6 Burnley 0
Burnley 4 Spurs 2

Don't know about rose tinted specs, looking back at that lot, it seems even better than I was remembering it.

[The Bedlington Terrier]

I do remember those days fondly 59, and I thought the football was far more exciting and entertaining back then, but maybe it was my rose tinted specs, so I've just had a look at the scores in my first two full seasons watching Burnley, 1959/60 and 60/61. In 84 D1 games over the two seasons there were just three goalless draws, amongst the scores were.

Leeds 2 Burnley 3
Burnley 5 Everton 2
Rovers 3 Burnley 2
Burnley 4 City 3
Burnley 8 Forest 0
Arsenal 2 Burnley 4
WHU 2 Burnley 5
Burnley 3 Arsenal 2
Wolves 6 Burnley 1
Burnley 3 Sheffield Wed 3
Burnley 3 Arsenal 2
Burnley 5 PNE 0
PNE 2 Burnley 3
Burnley 5 Fulham 0
Rovers 1 Burnley 4
Burnley 5 United 3
Chelsea 2 Burnley 6
(The 4 games above were consecutive, 20 league goals in 4 games, two days after the Chelsea game we won 4-0 at Cardiff in the League Cup, 24 goals in 5 games in 23 days in October 1960)
Burnley 5 Wolves 3
Bolton 3 Burnley 5
Spurs 4 Burnley 4
Burnley 3 Leicester 2
Arsenal 2 Burnley 5
Burnley 5 Newcastle 3
Burnley 3 Sheffield Wednesday 4
Burnley 4 Chelsea 4
Burnley 4 Forest 1
United 6 Burnley 0
Burnley 4 Spurs 2

Don't know about rose tinted specs, looking back at that lot, it seems even better than I was remembering it.

I had the full collection of programmes from that season sinkov, home and away and a lot of them had autographs on them.

The sorry tale is ex-wife number two was a proper vindictive bitch and when I left her for wife number three she threw the lot on the back of the fire. Snake with tits springs to mind!

[The Bedlington Terrier]

In what was one of my first away outings sinkov, me and my grandad and an uncle went to see Burnley at Wolverhampton that season on a Ribblesdale Batty Holt coach setting off from Infant Street in Accrington.

I seem to recall I sniffled all the way back to Accrington. 6-1!

[sinkov]

In what was one of my first away outings sinkov, me and my grandad and an uncle went to see Burnley at Wolverhampton that season on a Ribblesdale Batty Holt coach setting off from Infant Street in Accrington.

I seem to recall I sniffled all the way back to Accrington. 6-1!

I didn't go BT, but I can still remember hearing the score on my transistor radio, honestly I was in a state of shock, I could not believe any team could beat that Burnley team 6-1. But I was young, I'm not quite so wet behind the ears now.

[Supersub6]

sinkov --the game was more exciting and had more goals than the sterile stuff which is served up in the PL these days.
Your first two seasons saw the average goals per game throughout the 1st Division as 1959/60 == 3.49 followed by 3.73 per game in 1960/61
This season the PL got off to a start with 103 goals in 28 games in September and this was exciting people because the PL had never averaged over 3 goals per game since it started.
However, October saw 97 goals in 34 games in spite of the fact that 2 games yielded 16 goals.
November the total dropped again with 90 goals in 36 games and this month we have so far had 27 goals in 8 games so we are still under the average of 3 goals per game and I honestly can't see this being achieved this season, in spite of some of the defences being suspect.

[sinkov]

Those days didn't last though did they Sub, I can also remember our 72/73 promotion season, it was kick started sometime in November with four consecutive 1-0 wins, and I didn't worry for one moment about the lack of goals, we never looked back after that and the following season we were back in D1.