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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by mickd1961 View Post
    I get your logic with this 123.

    2000 people each putting in £100k would create £200m.

    4000 people each investing £50k also brings in £200m.

    I could see a substantial number of people willing to take out a long term loan to own one of either 2000 or 4000 shares.

    Especially if the share gave you free access to each match for example ( if you wanted to take that freebie? )

    Let’s say the average season ticket cost is going to work out at £750 over the next 25 years then that alone comes to almost £19k year of your initial investment.

    If you averaged season ticket cost out at £1000 per season over the next 40 years then you’re at £40k of value.

    If you decided to go for a lower cost share and then sell to a wider fan base you could still offer discounted season tickets infinitum to shareholders.

    Surely there’s a way to make a workable model and put the idea forward to the Chinky f u c k wit?
    I wouldn’t necessarily limit the number of shares an individual can own so long as any individual can’t own more than say 25%, backed up by a club constitution that prohibits money being taken out of the club or debt being accrued would I feel ensure the future of the club.

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    Don’t be so quick to run us down looks like midfielder Jason Molumby box to box midfielder on loan from Brighton.
    We are also looking at another striker but may not be available until January and Ismael happy to wait for right player.
    Why can’t fans wait till widow closed before having ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wba13 View Post
    Don’t be so quick to run us down looks like midfielder Jason Molumby box to box midfielder on loan from Brighton.
    We are also looking at another striker but may not be available until January and Ismael happy to wait for right player.
    Why can’t fans wait till widow closed before having ago.

    My expectation even with this squad - we should be promoted especially with a dynamic manager but there needs to be strength in depth!

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    Well Molumbysigned on a loan to buy. Official

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    I'm no expert of PLC's but my understanding has always been that if Lai was taking money out of the club, it would be reported and minor shareholders would also have the benefit of the dividend. There's no noise coming from the club that he's secretly bleeding us dry and asset stripping - just the fear of it from fans.

    The difficulty in the modern market is that money brought into the club isn't always used the same season and can be spread out. If we got £17 mill for Perreira, it's unreasonable to think we would want to pay out £17 million on replacements. If we have a way of paying for temporary replacements, that would usually be the most risk free tactic for the club as if they're crap, we aren't lumbered with the wages on a 4-5 year deal, like with Zohore. You have to shred the wage bill after 2 seasons in the championship so there is often reluctance to buy rather than loan.

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    I honestly don't think having a sugar daddy owner is a good thing long term as the bubble will burst at some point, what I do expect tho is an owner that has trust an affinity with the club and acts as a true custodian! I don’t think we have any of that with Lai.
    FOL

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    I might be on my own here but I think we are doing things the right way. We could spend a fortune on player's with no guarantee of going up, that would leave us f ucked for next season.
    We have a squad that is more than capable of getting us up, if we don't go up this season we will still be in a strong position for next season.
    However much we spend we are only likely to sign championship standard player's.
    Ken told Val he has a long term plan, I think it was to get us up on a shoestring, that was the reason we paid compo to Barnsley when we could have had Wilder for free.
    Hopefully we have a buyer in place who will takeover when we are premier league?
    Well, I have always been an optimist.

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    I don’t have a problem with free transfers or loans, it make sense especially with our record in recent years. Mind you most fans of all clubs will no doubt criticise their recruitment policy.
    My issue is that we are really short on numbers and noises coming from Val indicated that any incomings had to be balanced with outgoings.
    The language in the last 24 Hours has changed and indeed we have now signed another which is excellent news. There is also talk of another striker, phew thank goodness!
    I guess as fans we are inpatient and were getting a little concerned with the deadline quickly approaching. If you listen the other fans there are much the same as us.
    However there are still questions to be asked about out club finances. Indeed even the actual ownership question has not been addresses has it? Then there are other potential anomalies with transfers and such like.
    The Chinese are secretive by nature and I doubt if we will have any sort of transparency while Chairman Lai is the owner, or at least calling the shots

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