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  1. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    I accept your opinion BT , it’s just as I’ve said to you before I’ve lost people with the same opinion as you one a young man in his 50s who had asthma a good friend for many years - died and they tell me he’d have lived with the jabs - I mean science is science and the deaths have dropped dramatically after vaccine s , or is that untrue as well.
    I don't honestly know the answer to your questions army88. We can all see with our own eyes the stats are flawed and biased to favour the various SAGE ramblings.

    Transparent empirical evidence is what we need, but we do not have a cat in hells chance of seeing any of that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sinkov View Post
    Boris is at it now spewing out the same lies about the % un-vaxxed in ICUs. There's such a culture of lies from scientists, doctors, politicians and the media surrounding this virus that I've lost all faith in what any of them say.
    Must have been some new stats published, Boris said today that the number of unvaxxed in ICUs is just over 60%. So like I said earlier, Boris and those NHS consultants were lying when they said it was over 90%.

    Project Fear, just lies, bare-faced lies, from senior NHS staff and the Prime Minister.

  3. #23
    48 people died yesterday in Great Britain, 28 days after testing positive for Covid.

    63% of them were vaccinated, 87% of them did not die from Covid.

  4. #24
    If you want better data look at the John Hopkins university site, Koch institute, Zoe and fellow from Lancashire John Campbell.

    BMJ article from a month ago had over 120 research references which are interesting too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    48 people died yesterday in Great Britain, 28 days after testing positive for Covid.

    63% of them were vaccinated, 87% of them did not die from Covid.
    Ok so my question is BT have more people lived because of the vaccine ? and if we didn’t have the majority double jabbed now would we be sat in a major crisis with omicron running riot as it is?

    I’ve said to you before all medicines are a RISK so the anti Vaxers are having themselves on everything that has been ( let’s call it put to market ) has the same risk which you enter into when you have it including measles - mumps - flu antibiotics etc etc and yet they would accept all the others without question, if we didn’t have the vaccines we’d be in a right mess regardless of figures / lies the government and Sage are producing.

    My thing is if you don’t want it don’t have it but don’t moan afterwards if you contract it and are seriously I’ll , my nurse friend says they have patients that are now saying double jab me on admittance to hospital I didn’t believe before.

    Sadly they are told it won’t help you as you are and they have to wait and see if they survive.

    So the questions above are are real questions and I’d appreciate it if you answered them with logic not with your facts from the government or others.

    The media can always find a doctor or medical
    Specialist who wants to sing from the roof tops at how dangerous the vaccine is , what they don’t tell you is they had to go through ten fold of specialist who wanted to tell people they should have it and why.

    That’s the media though - whipping up a frenzy instead of getting behind something

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    Quote Originally Posted by army88 View Post
    Ok so my question is BT have more people lived because of the vaccine ? and if we didn’t have the majority double jabbed now would we be sat in a major crisis with omicron running riot as it is?

    I’ve said to you before all medicines are a RISK so the anti Vaxers are having themselves on everything that has been ( let’s call it put to market ) has the same risk which you enter into when you have it including measles - mumps - flu antibiotics etc etc and yet they would accept all the others without question, if we didn’t have the vaccines we’d be in a right mess regardless of figures / lies the government and Sage are producing.

    My thing is if you don’t want it don’t have it but don’t moan afterwards if you contract it and are seriously I’ll , my nurse friend says they have patients that are now saying double jab me on admittance to hospital I didn’t believe before.

    Sadly they are told it won’t help you as you are and they have to wait and see if they survive.

    So the questions above are are real questions and I’d appreciate it if you answered them with logic not with your facts from the government or others.

    The media can always find a doctor or medical
    Specialist who wants to sing from the roof tops at how dangerous the vaccine is , what they don’t tell you is they had to go through ten fold of specialist who wanted to tell people they should have it and why.

    That’s the media though - whipping up a frenzy instead of getting behind something
    The problem is army88 we are being manipulated by statistics that have no foundation in reality.

    They are making them up as we go along.

    The vaccine may or not be effective, but rising hospital numbers and the NHS "in crisis" annual message suggests otherwise.

    My dearly departed dad would be rolling out his favourite summing up of this whole $hitfest; "They are treating us like f*cking mushrooms, keeping us in the dark and feeding us on bull$hit"!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Bedlington Terrier View Post
    The problem is army88 we are being manipulated by statistics that have no foundation in reality.

    They are making them up as we go along.

    The vaccine may or not be effective, but rising hospital numbers and the NHS "in crisis" annual message suggests otherwise.

    My dearly departed dad would be rolling out his favourite summing up of this whole $hitfest; "They are treating us like f*cking mushrooms, keeping us in the dark and feeding us on bull$hit"!
    You didn’t answer BT - I said put aside what they’re feeding us as it’s irrelevant really.

    If you went back before we had any sort of vaccine and remember how many were losing the battle to live , I’m afraid the frailties of the NHS are out for all to see ( as I’ve said before that isn’t a slur on them as I believe they are doing a Stirling job). However it can’t cope but my thoughts were reality says if we didn’t have all the vaccinated as we have today where would we be.

    Or the alternative is you believe that the vaccines are pointless and do nothing and haven’t contributed to a modicum of
    Control from day one to now.

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    Yet another liar, London Mayor Sadiq Khan on Twitter yesterday,

    "Stark data presented by Chief Medical Officer Chris Whitty today.

    At all ages - the vast, vast majority of people hospitalised with Covid have not yet been vaccinated."


    Actually the data presented by Whitty showed the majority, 54%, were vaccinated, while 45% were un-vaxxed. You do have to wonder about these boosters they're pushing so desperately, if they are so beneficial why do so many of those in charge feel the need to lie about them ?

    I've had two jabs and the booster, but the next time these liars want to pump something into my arm they can go and feck themselves. There is something inherently dodgy about any product that has to be sold to the public on the back of a pack of lies, and there's nothing dodgy going into my arm again any time soon.

  9. #29
    After giving Social Services a whole lot of grief on Tuesday this week I got a "pass" to see "Old Bob" yesterday.

    He's been in hospital now for almost 15 weeks and the usual Covid didact was rolled out as to the reason why we have been unable to see him.

    Mrs BT, despite being double jabbed and boostered has Covid, so she could not go.

    My LFT was negative and a recent PCR was negative so in I went.

    The Ward Manager was a proper lovely chap and full of apologies for lack of visiting availability, but the Covid bollox was rolled out again.

    The nurses station had about 10 nurses and auxiliaries sat on their arses doing sweet FA.

    Because of a lack of care "Old Bob" is skeletal, today's challenge is to get him out of that hell hole into a nursing home.

    THANK YOU NHS - my arse.

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    I feel certain this will never see the light of day in the MSM, they would much rather you didn't know.

    https://yvymaraey.blogspot.com/2022/...c-arrests.html

    Don't worry about the video, it's not unlike Tommy Cooper's demise, and at least this young man survives.

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