Benitez sacked...

[Ramshank72]

Accountants and teachers were suggested, I'll happily single out another profession if you prefer?
I suppose if you're someone with the luxury of an expensive education, you wouldn't emphasise with those who did not have such opportunity. Not everyone can afford a degree or to take time out of their working day to get these non-essential qualifications.
Not that I'd put Rooney in the poverty bracket, but he's worked hard under unprecedented circumstances, and shouldn't be discouraged due to lack of a specific coaching badge.

[ramAnag]

Accountants and teachers were suggested, I'll happily single out another profession if you prefer?
I suppose if you're someone with the luxury of an expensive education, you wouldn't emphasise with those who did not have such opportunity. Not everyone can afford a degree or to take time out of their working day to get these non-essential qualifications.
Not that I'd put Rooney in the poverty bracket, but he's worked hard under unprecedented circumstances, and shouldn't be discouraged due to lack of a specific coaching badge.

My education wasn’t expensive...not back in the 1970’s...it was a choice which, I accept, wasn’t available to everyone.
The qualifications I have were ‘essential’ if I wanted to pursue my career of choice.
Rooney isn’t being discouraged...but if he wants to progress further then he knows he needs the required coaching certificate. I can see the point of that maybe seeming a bit daft for someone with all his experience, but those are the rules and to make an exception for him would, imo, be far more discriminatory than the current situation.

P.S. There are plenty of examples of great footballers who’ve been dreadful managers. Rooney seems to be making the transition, as did Brian Clough, but it is by no means a gimme.

[swaledale]

Accountants and teachers were suggested, I'll happily single out another profession if you prefer?
I suppose if you're someone with the luxury of an expensive education, you wouldn't emphasise with those who did not have such opportunity. Not everyone can afford a degree or to take time out of their working day to get these non-essential qualifications.
Not that I'd put Rooney in the poverty bracket, but he's worked hard under unprecedented circumstances, and shouldn't be discouraged due to lack of a specific coaching badge.

Its a question of rules I guess and also of a standard amongst all the leagues, so that where managers go to work in another country they have a recognised qualification to avoid "cheap" foreign unqualified managers being appointed.

As for Rooney, well there are any number of qualified experienced managers and coaches who don't happen to be a former big name player who would have jumped at the chance to manage derby and arguably could ahve made as good if not abetter job than Rooney (I agree that under current circumstances he is doing an amazing job, but then just maybe the lack of pressure of expectation is working in his and the players favour?), last season however he was lucky not to get relegated and the football, tactics were dire.

But if the rules are there to increase the standard of caching, it isn't right or fair that someone with a "name" as a player gets an opportunity over someone with more experience and qualifications surely?

The point of qualifications, is to enable people to be able to undertake increasingly complicated jobs, the world has changed and well paid unskilled jobs are few and far between and the chances of getting a well paid job without the requisite qualifications are few and far between. I know several people who took their qualifications at night classes and developed their career that way, and free as well or low cost. So cost and working full time not a bar to those who wish to progress.

[MadAmster]

I did my degree whilst working full time. 6 till 10 Tuesday evenings at Uni and Friday from 1400 to 2200 after having given 4 or 5 lessons that day. Paid for it myself.

As for top players being a shoe in for a manager's job.....

I give you Gary Neville, Shearer, Ince and our very own Toddo and Roy Mac and many others who couldn't cut it.

[Geoff Parkstone]

In fairness I wouldn't put Gary Neville into the top players definition!

[MadAmster]

In fairness I wouldn't put Gary Neville into the top players definition!

85 international caps. Lots of experience at the top with club and country.

[ramAnag]

Back on topic...more bad news. Everton knocked back as far as Martinez is concerned. Favourites now seem to be Duncan Ferguson, Lampard or Rooney.

[Geoff Parkstone]

Alloa Athletic's finest, Connor Sammon, got 9 caps........

[MadAmster]

You're comparing apples with pears. It doesn't work.

[ramAnag]

You're comparing apples with pears. It doesn't work.

Agreeing with MA about Gary Neville, but the point is you can go back years - eg Nobby Stiles and Bobby Charlton - and there are plenty of great/highly successful footballers who were poor managers and vice versa eg...Jurgen Klopp.
If Everton really want Rooney his current lack of ‘qualification’ will be no obstacle. Fingers crossed...unless there’s more down to Rosenior than we’re actually led to believe.