Rishi Sunak

[TipperaryBaggie]

Whatever happens in the future, now is not the time to get rid of Boris. This is in no way condoning his actions but there are far more important issues to be dealt with at this present moment in time. Changing PM will not help what is happening in Ukraine and all the government's efforts should be focussed on this.

Of course, this is the sensible position Leics. Far too much points scoring going on in politics at the moment.

[WBA123]

Whatever happens in the future, now is not the time to get rid of Boris. This is in no way condoning his actions but there are far more important issues to be dealt with at this present moment in time. Changing PM will not help what is happening in Ukraine and all the government's efforts should be focussed on this.

I find this position incredible, I really do. But also not surprising.

He has at best misled parliament (again), and at worst outright lied to Parliament (again). If ethics meant anything to him he would have resigned a long time ago. But I guess this is the type of person you and many others want running the country.

As for the pitiful excuse about Ukraine, why won't it help? Why couldn't someone else have been even stronger than Boris? For example, Starmer has already said on record he would have gone further with sanctions. Unfortunately we are awash with Russian money across the political spectrum, but Boris has received many donations from Kremlin linked individuals and companies in the past. Is this right? He has been relatively slow and weak on Russian sanctions compared to other countries. We know he has a past record of favouring his friends for PPE contracts and job positions. He put a Kremlin linked individual in the House of Lords, against national security advice.

Military aid is often recommended by the military in conjunction with Government ministers. I'm not sure what or if anything different would have been given with any other PM.

Boris has done his usual hoodwinking though. He'll probably be in power for 10 years with our naïve electorate. Lying his way throughout, the usual gaffe's, damaging our economy and so on.

[baggiematt]

Boris has done his usual hoodwinking though. He'll probably be in power for 10 years with our naïve electorate. Lying his way throughout, the usual gaffe's, damaging our economy and so on.

Couldn’t agree more. His leadership has been a disaster through ethical issues. Worst of all the country is having to fund £12b in the NI increases, at the worst time, in order to fund Sunak’s covid business fraud blunder and a failed test and trace system.

It’s incredible that both are still in office.

[Leicesterbaggie]

It's very easy for the leaders of other parties to say what they would have done when they don't actually have to make the decisions. Let's face it, Starmer is an expert in this field, hence the nickname 'Mr. Hindsight'. If his party had been in power we wouldn't have the military wherewithal to aid Ukraine as they were always looking to make cut backs in this field. We probably wouldn't still have a nuclear deterrent! When this war is over, and I hope that it's soon, then I do think that there should be a leadership contest but, as I've already stated, not before. As for Boris' efforts in Ukraine, Zelenski himself, has praised what the UK has done. He wouldn't say this if it wasn't a fact and it's a bit rich for Starmer to say how much more he would have achieved.

[baggieal]

It's very easy for the leaders of other parties to say what they would have done when they don't actually have to make the decisions. Let's face it, Starmer is an expert in this field, hence the nickname 'Mr. Hindsight'. If his party had been in power we wouldn't have the military wherewithal to aid Ukraine as they were always looking to make cut backs in this field. We probably wouldn't still have a nuclear deterrent! When this war is over, and I hope that it's soon, then I do think that there should be a leadership contest but, as I've already stated, not before. As for Boris' efforts in Ukraine, Zelenski himself, has praised what the UK has done. He wouldn't say this if it wasn't a fact and it's a bit rich for Starmer to say how much more he would have achieved.

Agree Leicester. Macron won’t even use the word Genocide in Ukraine - what the f uck is it then - rock, paper scissors? Germany are worried about their natural gas flow whilst their payment feeds the bombs and Russian soldiers gang banging minors then executing them!!

Putin must be laughing at these pathetic countries!! When the land corridor and ports are taken - on your marks get ready!!! Which selfish western countries will be desperate to commence operations again in Russia? After of course Mrs Sunak who loves her country?

Hypocrites the lot of them!!! Putin must be having a right laugh!!

Does Starmer say anything original? I don’t like Boris myself and hate Sunak but really - what do Labour offer? Good job Corbyn is not there as he would be lunching in Moscow with his chums!

[WBA123]

It's very easy for the leaders of other parties to say what they would have done when they don't actually have to make the decisions. Let's face it, Starmer is an expert in this field, hence the nickname 'Mr. Hindsight'. If his party had been in power we wouldn't have the military wherewithal to aid Ukraine as they were always looking to make cut backs in this field. We probably wouldn't still have a nuclear deterrent! When this war is over, and I hope that it's soon, then I do think that there should be a leadership contest but, as I've already stated, not before. As for Boris' efforts in Ukraine, Zelenski himself, has praised what the UK has done. He wouldn't say this if it wasn't a fact and it's a bit rich for Starmer to say how much more he would have achieved.

Its going to be hard to cut through the propaganda and meaningless insults such as 'Captain Hindsight'. Especially as Boris Johnson has backtracked and flip flopped more than any other PM I can remember on policy. But I guess if you throw enough mud some will stick.

I recall Keir Starmer in Parliament asking for Abromovich to be sanctioned several days before he actually was. I would call that foresight, rather than hindsight, wouldn't you?

Abromovich was not an isolated case and those delays allow these oligarchs to refinance their assets so they are harder to seize. So there was a lot of incompetence from the Tories in the early sanctioning days.

To actually defend our PM for breaking the law and associating it with a war, in which his response has been average at best, is quite ridiculous. But as I say, the propaganda will most likely win through.

[WBA123]

Agree Leicester. Macron won’t even use the word Genocide in Ukraine - what the f uck is it then - rock, paper scissors? Germany are worried about their natural gas flow whilst their payment feeds the bombs and Russian soldiers gang banging minors then executing them!!

Putin must be laughing at these pathetic countries!! When the land corridor and ports are taken - on your marks get ready!!! Which selfish western countries will be desperate to commence operations again in Russia? After of course Mrs Sunak who loves her country?

Hypocrites the lot of them!!! Putin must be having a right laugh!!

Does Starmer say anything original? I don’t like Boris myself and hate Sunak but really - what do Labour offer? Good job Corbyn is not there as he would be lunching in Moscow with his chums!

There is a difference, France and Germany rely a lot more on Russian energy than we do. So it was quite easy for us to be stronger in terms of rhetoric. If they were cut off, it would affect them much worse.

They are trying to wean themselves off now, it but its not like switching phone providers. Its going to take many months, maybe a couple of years.

I don't think either country saw this war as happening either, both France and Germany were caught short from an intelligence perspective. They are still a long way behind the UK and US in terms of intelligence. And in the case of Germany, they didn't really have the military might that we have to be able to support Ukraine in the same way as us. They have responded by increasing their defence spending, and I think the west has generally been united in its response to Russia. But I'm not sure its as simple as you say, in terms of responding in the same way as us.

As for Labour, I think it was always going to be hard for Starmer walking into the mess Corbyn left behind. He's made a good start by withdrawing the whip from him and taking on some of the far left that lurks in the party. The more Starmer manages to remove that far left faction further then the more chance they have of becoming electable. I think he's doing a relatively decent job in the circumstances.

[Leicesterbaggie]

There is a difference, France and Germany rely a lot more on Russian energy than we do. So it was quite easy for us to be stronger in terms of rhetoric. If they were cut off, it would affect them much worse.

They are trying to wean themselves off now, it but its not like switching phone providers. Its going to take many months, maybe a couple of years.

I don't think either country saw this war as happening either, both France and Germany were caught short from an intelligence perspective. They are still a long way behind the UK and US in terms of intelligence. And in the case of Germany, they didn't really have the military might that we have to be able to support Ukraine in the same way as us. They have responded by increasing their defence spending, and I think the west has generally been united in its response to Russia. But I'm not sure its as simple as you say, in terms of responding in the same way as us.

As for Labour, I think it was always going to be hard for Starmer walking into the mess Corbyn left behind. He's made a good start by withdrawing the whip from him and taking on some of the far left that lurks in the party. The more Starmer manages to remove that far left faction further then the more chance they have of becoming electable. I think he's doing a relatively decent job in the circumstances.

What do you mean 'taking on some of the far left lurks in the party?' That rabid leftie woman is deputy leader of the party. She's the first I'd have got rid of, not have her as the next in line! It's still beholden to the extreme left but that's what I read in the Daily Mail I suppose.

[Leicesterbaggie]

Its going to be hard to cut through the propaganda and meaningless insults such as 'Captain Hindsight'. Especially as Boris Johnson has backtracked and flip flopped more than any other PM I can remember on policy. But I guess if you throw enough mud some will stick.

I recall Keir Starmer in Parliament asking for Abromovich to be sanctioned several days before he actually was. I would call that foresight, rather than hindsight, wouldn't you?

Abromovich was not an isolated case and those delays allow these oligarchs to refinance their assets so they are harder to seize. So there was a lot of incompetence from the Tories in the early sanctioning days.

To actually defend our PM for breaking the law and associating it with a war, in which his response has been average at best, is quite ridiculous. But as I say, the propaganda will most likely win through.

I think that you have a short memory. Didn't the Labour PM tell a pack of lies which took us into an illegal war killing approx. 200,000 civilians and nearly 200 UK military personnel. The Chilcott reported laid bare the lies that he told. I think that might have had a few more serious consequences than a 'birthday party'. Don't get me wrong, it was illegal and wrong and Johnson should be punished for it, if not now, at the next ballot box. However, Blair should be behind bars instead of making a fortune from after dinner speeches around the world and pontificating about other political situations. His lies had disasterous consequences.

[baggieal]

There is a difference, France and Germany rely a lot more on Russian energy than we do. So it was quite easy for us to be stronger in terms of rhetoric. If they were cut off, it would affect them much worse.

They are trying to wean themselves off now, it but its not like switching phone providers. Its going to take many months, maybe a couple of years.

I don't think either country saw this war as happening either, both France and Germany were caught short from an intelligence perspective. They are still a long way behind the UK and US in terms of intelligence. And in the case of Germany, they didn't really have the military might that we have to be able to support Ukraine in the same way as us. They have responded by increasing their defence spending, and I think the west has generally been united in its response to Russia. But I'm not sure its as simple as you say, in terms of responding in the same way as us.

As for Labour, I think it was always going to be hard for Starmer walking into the mess Corbyn left behind. He's made a good start by withdrawing the whip from him and taking on some of the far left that lurks in the party. The more Starmer manages to remove that far left faction further then the more chance they have of becoming electable. I think he's doing a relatively decent job in the circumstances.

Don’t agree! I get Germany have 40% of their natural gas from Russia but whichever way you look at it - payment of Russian natural gas is feeding the Slaughter machine. We are not talking about a war here but Genocide. Apart from any Jews - what’s the point of continual visits to the old concentration camps in Poland when there will be thousands slaughtered in Mariupol!

Starmer though needs to start coming out with more things original rather than a broken record about partygate. Labour still have the old useless cronies and trade unions of past so still not a credible opposition.

Yes I would like to see Truss take over from Boris but whilst Ukraine is going on - now is not the time!

Putin is doing what he’s doing as he knows the West are not united and scared. You can bet Western companies will rush back to Russia as soon as they can including of course the interests of Mrs Sunak - she must be short of a bob or two!!