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  1. #1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    He came with far less experience of this level than did Ardley and has just about caught him up in 1 year.

    An interesting insight into what intelligent managers deal with covers how Pep Guardiola has adapted his philosophies for Premier League football.

    Maybe Burchnall may have some of that.

    And maybe the Bros plan is first and foremost sustainability. Or do you want another Trew/Hardy or even Munto 5 year plan to the Championship and remind me where that got us.
    Maybe we just need to attract some owners with financial clout, plenty of other clubs smaller than us seem to do it
    Lets face it since Pavis we have had no owners with any real money, the reason munto, Trew and Hardy all failed was down to lack of money - pure and simple

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davy500 View Post
    Maybe we just need to attract some owners with financial clout, plenty of other clubs smaller than us seem to do it
    Lets face it since Pavis we have had no owners with any real money, the reason munto, Trew and Hardy all failed was down to lack of money - pure and simple
    Good point, can you imagine how much money Derek would have thrown at Notts if he would have been a billionaire? He was totally dedicated to our club. God bless DP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Old_pie View Post
    He came with far less experience of this level than did Ardley and has just about caught him up in 1 year.

    An interesting insight into what intelligent managers deal with covers how Pep Guardiola has adapted his philosophies for Premier League football.

    Maybe Burchnall may have some of that.

    And maybe the Bros plan is first and foremost sustainability. Or do you want another Trew/Hardy or even Munto 5 year plan to the Championship and remind me where that got us.
    I forgot the link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/61470026 for Pep. I suggest you read it, gives a good insight into adapting to English football. As I said, we need to see if Burchnall has any of that.

    There is a lot of sense to building solid foundations, in the club and on the pitch. On the pitch we've got a weak spine and hopefully all those in charge will realise it. For all the doom and gloom we were one stupid push from a youngster and 30s from getting into the next battle. Many would say Burchnall has made a good stab it his first full year in English football and the bigger question is whether or not he, and the bros, can push on. If they can't then we'll be looking over our shoulder at Tier 6. If we can then maybe it's going to be a case of steady rather than spectacular progression, more of a Sirrel and less or a Warnock.

    Next season will be crucial in seeing where we are going.

    Last 3 league positions for those that have forgotten (courtesy of UTM)

    Season Manager Top Scorer Final Home Away
    position W D L F A W D L W D L

    2021/22 Ian Burchnall ???????????? 5th/24 24 10 10 81 52 15 5 2 9 5 8
    2020/21 Ardley / Burchnall Kyle Wootton 5th/24 20 10 12 62 41 11 3 7 9 7 5
    2019/20 Neal Ardley Dennis/Wootton 3rd/24 17 12 9 61 38 10 8 2 7 4 7l

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    Quote Originally Posted by durhampie View Post
    Or, Are you happy to see Notts languish in this league ?
    Three play off campaigns on a trot is hardly languishing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    Three FAILED play off campaigns on a trot is hardly languishing
    I've added the word you missed.

    If you see Notts making the playoffs in this league as an achievement, I would beg to differ.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Elite_Pie View Post
    I've added the word you missed.

    If you see Notts making the playoffs in this league as an achievement, I would beg to differ.
    The benchmark has to be the gates and going by those we are at least 40 places below where we should be, probably more (as those gates would be considerably higher in the current climate if our position was higher).

    I don't know the ins and outs of the Hayden Green Estate situation regards the ground, but I am now beginning to wonder if - whilst it protects Notts from doing a Bury, does that also act as an obstacle for a potential saviour in the true sense of the word, that is to say a saviour which not only keeps the club alive but restores it to a position we used to take for granted - upper 3rd tier, lower 2nd, or higher the further you go back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    Three play off campaigns on a trot is hardly languishing
    That's what you consider to be a successful season then......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chicken Balti Pie View Post
    Three play off campaigns on a trot is hardly languishing
    Each play off campaign worse each time.
    Final
    Semi
    Quarter. All lost. So will it get worse? I won't hold my breath.

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    Quote Originally Posted by upthemaggies View Post
    If these are the only two possible options then why does this not apply to clubs like Stockport, Wrexham, Solihull and a very long list of clubs in the EFL? What makes Notts so special that we have to accept either sustainability (ie forever skint) or ruin?

    To a large extent it'll be down to the fact we've got Fword literally staring us down from the other side of the river. Probably the complications involving the ground ownership as well. It's become clear over the past 5/6 years - and I think it will become more obvious as time goes on - that Notts do not interest the kind of wealth and ambition that almost any other club with our gates is able to attract.
    Who are these clubs who get gates like us who have wealthy owners then ?

    If you can find them I bet they are one town/city clubs as well.

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    We're in this league on merit, I think a lot of posters here need a reality check, we don't have a God given right to storm the league so making the post season playoffs quite frankly is a decent season

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